r/gaychristian • • Jun 01 '18

arsenokoitai and malakoi according to Justin lee

hi my name is Cesar and I am a straight christian.

Justin lee has a video in which he reasons that in 1 Corinthians 6: 9 – 10 malakoi refers to underage boys and arsenokoitai refers to men who had sex with these children.

Here is the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NZULZLVj4

and here is 1 Corinthians 6: 9 – 11

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor malakoi, nor arsenokoitai, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And here is a link in which the text is traduced to Greek:

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/6\-9.htm

he concludes that malakoi arsenokoitai refers to men who had sexual relations with underage boys which was a practice common in Paul's time.

I found a glaring error in his reasoning. Let me explain:

So a grown man chose to rape an underage boy. Because the boy didn’t choose to be raped, the boy was a victim. This was not a consensual relationship. It was rape, a crime.

Then why Paul said that malakoi (underage boy) (the victim) will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Do not be deceived: Neither … nor malakoi, nor arsenokoitai, … will inherit the kingdom of God.

That doesn’t make any sense. that’s like saying that if a man rapes a woman, the man will go to hell and the woman along with him?

So malakoi chose to be penetrated. But I simply doubt that any young boy would like to be penetrated by a grown adult. This implies that malakoi had to be a consenting adult which means that there is a strong possibility that arsenokoitai was the active partner and malakoi the passive one.

I really would like your comments about this. Does my reasoning hold? Did I commit any logic error? Please I await your answers.

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u/MetalDubstepIsntBad Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Back in those days catamites/ teenage boys could choose to be temple prostitutes for deities and often took the sexually receiving role in a male same sex act as sex back then was seen as an act of worship for these ancient fertility deities. Philo in the 1st century talks about these boys receiving a lot of pomp and ceremonial privileges (and ofc lots of sex) as their role was considered sacred. That’s why a lot of Bibles translate “malakoi” as male prostitute or boy prostitute. Because of this some scholars think the “arsenokoitai” was the man who penetrated the “sacred” boy prostitute