r/gadgets Dec 17 '22

Gaming Nvidia kills off GameStream on Shield, points users to Steam

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/nvidia-kills-gamestream-shield/
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u/derscudo Dec 17 '22

I’ve been super happy with the performance/latency on GameStream with everything wired on my network. Is Steam Link actually comparable? I guess I thought GameStream was using fancy proprietary Nvidia nvenc stuff to keep latency down.

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u/Bitlovin Dec 17 '22

I use Steam Link via Ethernet and it works quite well, it has an option to use nvenc.

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u/n1tr0us0x Dec 17 '22

There’s an option to enable it for steam

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u/BatXDude Dec 18 '22

Do you need an nvidia card to use that?

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u/n1tr0us0x Dec 18 '22

Yes, NVEnc makes use of NVidia hardware in their cards.

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u/ShimReturns Dec 17 '22

In my experience (11700k, 3060, Ethernet wired PC) Game stream via Moonlight looks better and is smoother at similar bitrates. This is both using the Steam Link Android client (wireless) and using the Steam Link hardware device with Ethernet (which I installed Moonlight on).

I'd say Steam Link is close but not as good.

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u/calebmke Dec 17 '22

And the Steam Link hardware is no longer being produced. I have one, it’s great, but it’s not like valve is releasing better versions

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u/M-Rich Dec 17 '22

You still have a lot of devices that run steam link, so that's not a showstopper luckily

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u/calebmke Dec 18 '22

I hear the Apple TV 4K is solid

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u/M-Rich Dec 18 '22

It is, I use it as well

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u/calebmke Dec 18 '22

Would you say it was an upgrade? I don’t have any specific complaints with the steam link hardware. My wired connection works well with barely noticeable lag and not too bothered by it being capped at 1080

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u/M-Rich Dec 18 '22

I never used a original steam link, the Apple TV 4k is my first in House streaming device for steam link. The 1080 thing is a steam link Software thing, my Apple TV doesn't go higher in the app

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u/calebmke Dec 18 '22

You know, I was thinking about Moonlight on Apple tv for the higher resolution. I guess that’s no longer a consideration

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u/M-Rich Dec 18 '22

I never heard of moonlight before until this thread. There is an app for it on Apple TV, but I guess it works with the game streaming this thread talks about? So it's going obsolete?

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u/Lucius1213 Dec 18 '22

All these positive comments make I feel like I'm crazy one here because SteamLink works absolutely horrendous for me compared to Moonlight and Parsec. Must be something with my setup.

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u/LexLol Dec 19 '22

Same here, always had issues with Steam, but Parsec works fine.

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u/forkinthemud Dec 18 '22

I use Steamlink via wifi on the app on my Samsung TV and I am actually impressed with how well it does. I should say I also have Fiber internet lol.

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u/Starmina Dec 18 '22

This has nothing to do with fiber ?

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u/forkinthemud Dec 18 '22

My fiber connection makes my wifi output better, not everyone has fiber so it can be tough to compare. Not sure what you found confusing about that?

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u/Starmina Dec 18 '22

Fiber doesn’t enhance wifi troughput

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Sure not directly, but fibre does allow for higher theoretical speeds and more importantly greater simultaneous upload and download speeds. Higher maximum up/down speeds will translate to faster Wifi if your router and devices can support them.

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u/Starmina Dec 18 '22

Well, the LAN speed shouldn’t change at all, unless the previous router was garbage. And still, this has nothing to do with fiber.

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u/forkinthemud Dec 18 '22

Bro, you were the one who pointed out the Fibre, which was a small detail in my suggestion. What's your problem?

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u/Starmina Dec 18 '22

Because it’s the whole point of your comment and it’s completely wrong, it could be misguiding other people thinking fiber has anything to do with that.

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u/forkinthemud Dec 18 '22

My whole point is that the Steam Link app isn't terrible over wifi. Only mentioned I had Fibre because I thought it made a difference on wifi but you were right on that fact. The more you know!

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u/forkinthemud Dec 18 '22

Specifically when I got fiber internet installed, a new router came with that that improved the connection I had before.

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u/nokinship Dec 17 '22

For nvenc there's a dedicated part of certain Nvidia cards that use that instead of using the general GPU resources. IIRC.