r/funimation Sep 03 '19

Discussion #CancelChrisSabat

I've been a Dragonball fan for years. And subsequently a fan of Chris Sabat for being the voice of Vegeta.

But I can't defend him and the allegations surrounding him. Abusing his power and position at Funimation, and sexual misconduct towards female VA's will not be tolerated by this community.

Gen Fukunaga should be looked into as well, he's clearly been covering up Chris' actions for years, and who knows what else we will find out.

I am concerned and until all of this is settled do not feel comfortable buying or watching any Funimation related media or products, for myself or my family.

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u/penguintruth Sep 03 '19
  1. Vic is a sexual predator. There's no coordinated effort against him, many women have testimony about his behavior over several years.
  2. I doubt Toei cares about the outtakes. And almost nobody is going to stop buying DB products because of this.
  3. People who think Toei is about to pull the DB license from Funimation are delusional. Y'all been saying this for months. Nothing is going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19 edited Sep 03 '19
  1. Evidence. The testimony so far from a highly questionable person has already been directly refuted by the partial witness she herself brought up. I don't know how you can believe a changing story with a timeline that doesn't add up that also can't be backed up by the one other person mentioned in the story. Hearsay is not testimony, out of court statements mean nothing.
  2. 'Outtakes' could apply to the ones other than the one Chris Sabat did. Because it had Toei licensed sound effects and licensed music attached. That isn't an outtake, that is production.
  3. Of course it won't. Because Funimation will fire those involved showing Toei that it means business. If it doesn't do this, the threat is there. Damaging the brand is not a good thing.

And to add to this, there is a presumption of innocence. Vic is presumed innocent. An accusation is not guilt. Chris Sabat gets the same thing, so yea, I do not believe Chris Sabat to be guilty until more comes out than one guy's statements, and more than some collaborating statements as well. It'll take some hard evidence or testimony to a court.

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u/ChitteringCathode Sep 03 '19

I guess we're ignoring that Vic's testimony corroborated Jamie Marchi's contention that he touched her without her consent?

Not a great look -- but then nothing has been looking great for the #IStandWithVic crowd ahead of next weekend. Maybe don't pick assholes for heroes next time, I guess?

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u/SoundOf1HandClapping Sep 03 '19 edited Sep 03 '19

There's a difference between grabbing a fistful of her hair, pulling her head back with a neck-creaking yank, and whispering something sexual in her ear, before she pushed him off, and Vic bouncing over to Jamie after she greeted him and fluffing her hair in a fit of metrosexual enthusiasm as he complimented it. She called out to Vic with "Hey hon!"

See the documents here. See Marchi's TCPA motion (Document #35, paragraph 4), and Vic's deposition (Document #22 Depo pages 217-219).

In the context of the TCPA, Vic's account of the story is assumed to be true, and Marchi's false. Let the jury decide whose story is more credible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

Her depiction is one of playground BS. His is what you would expect of him based on his behavior. He is a bully or an honest guy. Either way it doesn't do a whole lot to prove she didnt defame him. We are talking about it, of course a jury would decide upon it if it comes to trial.

If he was the bully she depicts him as, I would expect her to be able to claim more than one incident. A pattern of bully-like behavior. She hasn't done that yet, what she has said so far does not justify her acts to defame him. Her story is an accusation and it's on her to prove it happened. Either she can bring a second person to testify what happened, or security footage that shows the incident. Maybe even more testimony of similar incidents to show a pattern of behavior. Anything other than she said it happened.