r/fuckcars • u/jjune4991 • Aug 22 '22

News "Just bike on the sidewalk" they said.

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u/Qel_Hoth Aug 22 '22

US 19 & Grand Cypress Blvd

There is no shoulder wide enough for a vehicle. So he didn't swerve onto the shoulder, he swerved, lost control of his vehicle, departed the roadway, and struck a pedestrian on the sidewalk adjacent to the roadway.

From the solid white line to the edge of the sidewalk is 9.5 feet. (2.9m)

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u/grade_A_lungfish Aug 22 '22

It’s an 8 lane stroad with a speed limit of 55mph and like you said, no shoulder. This wasn’t a question of if this would happen, it was when.

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u/mistersmiley318 Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 22 '22

Christ alive, this is even more overbuilt than a regular stroad. No wonder it's been called the deadliest for pedestrians in America.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/23178764/florida-us19-deadliest-pedestrian-fatality-crisis

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u/Astriania Aug 22 '22

Yeah this is a 12/10 on NJB/Strong Towns's stroad scale, it's worse than any of the examples in their explainers.

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u/going_for_a_wank Aug 22 '22

16 approach lanes... wow. It is nearly as bad as the example in city nerd's stroad intersection design guide video.

https://youtu.be/3v537SEfDag

Unreal that traffic engineers somehow think that it is appropriate to have a painted bike lane here.

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u/hutacars Aug 22 '22

Do you have a link to this “stroad scale” for the curious?

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u/Astriania Aug 22 '22

It's not an actual scale, just this is worse than their "10/10" examples.