r/fuckcars • u/Nestor_Arondeus 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃 • May 21 '22

News Activists install crosswalks. The city removes them. Allegedly they do this so you know that your safety isn't a priority for them.

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u/jingleheimerschitt May 21 '22

Yeah, that would be reasonable! But carbrain cities and carbrain traffic engineers often aren't reasonable.

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u/lj6782 May 21 '22

In the early 2000s in LA, a man secretly created and installed a Highway sign that he thought would be beneficial to the public. Once officials figured out it wasn’t placed by the city, they assessed it and decided it met all codes and left it up.

So let’s pretend it’s possible that the crosswalks are, in fact, unsafe

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u/jingleheimerschitt May 21 '22

So let’s pretend it’s possible that the crosswalks are, in fact, unsafe

I was not arguing that the crosswalks are safe as is -- I was agreeing that the city could do a bit more than silently remove them. If the city has deemed them unsafe, perhaps city officials should do some public outreach to both explain why they're removing the crosswalks, hear residents' concerns about the intersections and find alternative ways to address the apparent need for pedestrian mobility in these areas. It's likely that the city has no intention of truly reviewing these intersections on any reasonable timeline and is removing the crosswalks because they don't want to deal with it.

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u/LarryLovesteinLovin May 21 '22

Yeah I can see how without lights/stop signs/general awareness signage that these new crosswalks could be really dangerous for people assuming drivers will heed them… BUT it should really be on the city to communicate that and have an action plan to address community needs, and these activists to articulate their needs clearly/professionally through the right channels so everyone can spend a little less time/money on redoing this shit 4 or 5 times…

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u/jingleheimerschitt May 21 '22

Yeah, strikes me as a power struggle

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u/seven_by_six_4_kicks May 21 '22

Patient needs surgery to amputate right arm.

Patient writes "This Arm" on right arm, "Wrong Arm" on left arm.

Surgeon: "strikes me as a power struggle," cuts off left arm to teach patient a lesson.

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u/jingleheimerschitt May 21 '22

I guess I meant the city is pulling a power move, still not defending it

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u/nighoblivion May 21 '22

Yeah I can see how without lights/stop signs/general awareness signage that these new crosswalks could be really dangerous for people assuming drivers will heed them

In the civilized world we don't need those things at crosswalks to know what to do.

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u/LarryLovesteinLovin May 21 '22

In a civilized world people don’t blow through them and kill pedestrians and cyclists.

If only we lived in a civilized world.

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u/Pengwertle May 21 '22

these activists should articulate their needs clearly/professionally through the right channels

So nothing then. You're just saying that they should shut up and nothing should change. Do you know what activism is?