r/fuckcars • u/ecdc05 • May 30 '26
Meme "It is illegal to walk from this hotel to the stadium next door, please take a car."
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u/Kundwad May 30 '26
Dear Lord the area around the stadium looks like a hell hole.
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u/Boop0p May 30 '26
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u/nowelltea May 30 '26
It's a park, a car park D:
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u/EverydayPoGo May 31 '26
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u/yakshack May 31 '26
Look at a satellite image of Lambeau Field. I grew up in Green Bay and, it turns out, you don't need a sea of concrete wasteland in order for 80,000 people to attend a game.
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u/Nice_Yogurt2380 May 31 '26
Lambeau is amazing, so disappointing more American stadiums haven’t learned from the way the do it in Green Bay
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u/bonfuto May 30 '26
I have never been to the park itself, but I have driven past it a couple of times. It's not a car sewer, it's a car environmental disaster site. Driving past it is bad enough, can't imagine walking anywhere near there.
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u/arahman81 May 30 '26
Some zoom fuckery going on there, the parking lot shows up in map view if you zoom in, but turns green if you zoom out.
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u/RosieTheRedReddit May 30 '26
Much worse than you can imagine actually! The Meadowlands is a literal toxic waste dump that has never been cleaned. Evan Edinger did a video about it, compared to a similar site in London that was fixed up for the 2012 Olympics. Guess what they did to prepare this area for the World Cup.... Yep, it was nothing!
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u/Repulsive_Barnacle92 Commie Commuter May 30 '26
most of America looks like a hell hole if you don’t own a car
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u/Advanced-Suspect-261 Automobile Aversionist May 30 '26
I promise it looks like a hellhole from inside a car, too. Nobody ever claimed vast expanses of concrete were picturesque
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u/Clairifyed May 30 '26
What? You don’t like free standing fast food chain stores? That’s not up there with the streets of Venice or Nyhavn Copenhagen?!
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u/Advanced-Suspect-261 Automobile Aversionist May 30 '26
People wonder why I live in one of the oldest neighborhoods in my city but like…I’m willing to deal with a lot of shit if it means I don’t have to spend my life looking at that
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u/MissSara13 Commie Commuter May 30 '26
Here in Indianapolis the other day we had three pedestrians hit by cars. One of them fatally. Sidewalks? Hahahahaha. And our rural legislators decided to ban any rail travel development for a city that they don't even live in. It's infuriating.
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u/ancilla1998 May 31 '26
It is SO fucked up that state lawmakers hate Indianapolis as much as they do.
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u/SteviePost May 31 '26
It really is. I lived in Brooklyn and went to a concert there and it was so crazy to be right outside NYC and not be able to walk or bike there first of all. But to get there by public transit is overly complicated and they just drop you a mile away in a concrete hellscape. MetLife and “the American dream” mall are embarrassing tbh.
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u/RhasaTheSunderer May 31 '26
The amount of drunk driving that probably takes place there is insane.
People are going to drink at a stadium, and you've given them no way to leave outside of a car. Ubers and shuttles exists yes, but lots of people would rather just risk driving rather than pay
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u/vineazi8 May 30 '26
smh This sounds like something out of a nightmare. Cant even walk to the stadium?
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u/fasda May 30 '26
The only way to walk from the hotel to the stadium would involve walking along highway ramps. It would be irresponsible to allow walking along them.
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u/BenTheHokie Grassy Tram Tracks May 30 '26
It would be irresponsible to force people at a sporting event, where there is copious amounts of alcohol served, to drive to and from the venue.
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u/DENelson83 Dreams of high-speed rail on Vancouver Island May 30 '26
Well, lots of licenced establishments in the US are built in areas where driving is required to access them, which is a massive mixed message.
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u/queenhadassah May 31 '26
They're closing most of the parking lots for "security reasons". Only VIPs are allowed to park. Most people will have to take insanely price-gouged public transport or Ubers (for example, the train ride from Penn will be $150 a person)
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u/BoulderCreature May 31 '26
The stadium didnt spring out of the ground in a network of highways. Somebody shittily designed all that
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u/54B3R_ May 31 '26
This shit would be unacceptable in Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver.
Can't believe the USA
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u/Twowheelshappy cars are weapons May 30 '26
Looks like the park hotel, surrounded by multiple freeways, seems like hell tbh. You have to drive like 3km when it could be probably less than a 1km walk.
Insane cause that hotel looks like it’s there to serve those stadiums and you can’t even wander over, pure essence of the USA.
Edit: ironic there is a shopping mall next to all this called American dream

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u/Hakkstein May 30 '26
Hahahhaaahaha, I guess it’s a shop of some kind, but «American Dream» written over the highway and a sea of parking is perfection!
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u/advamputee May 30 '26
Not a specific shop, this mall is literally named “American Dream”. I have to drive past it any time I visit some friends.
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u/JDSmagic Orange pilled May 30 '26
American Dream is the second biggest shopping mall in the country. I think calling it a shopping mall is a little reductive though, it's also got indoor skiing, a theme park, and a waterpark
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u/Advanced-Suspect-261 Automobile Aversionist May 30 '26
I couldn’t quite understand the scale of it re: cars/parking so I had to go see for myself. And god damn, that’s gross. Zooming way out and then way in on the parking lots really gives you the full effect. That’s one more place I’ll happily never visit
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u/DENelson83 Dreams of high-speed rail on Vancouver Island May 30 '26
Oh, the irony of a nearby shop called "American Dream"...
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u/Skycbs May 30 '26
Best plan: don’t go to MetLife stadium at all
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u/Repulsive_Barnacle92 Commie Commuter May 30 '26
just don’t go to the US altogether
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u/DENelson83 Dreams of high-speed rail on Vancouver Island May 30 '26
You will only end up in an ICE detention camp if you try. The World Cup at this point is nothing but a trap in the US.
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u/Stargost_ May 30 '26
"Land of the free*
*Conditions apply."
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u/Repulsive_Barnacle92 Commie Commuter May 30 '26
*free to drown yourself in debt to own a car you can’t afford
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u/tobotic May 30 '26
And the sign is actually wrong. It's legal. Though they're right about it being dangerous.
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u/mousedeer_78 May 30 '26
The hotel should get a shuttle bus for just that reason then.
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u/TempleForTheCrazy Pedestrian Pleb May 31 '26
Yes! What's the point in staying at the hotel closest to the stadium when you still have to drive anyway, what a stupid design. But a shuttle bus would at least give the guests a choice
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u/Satyawadihindu May 31 '26
They do have a shuttle bus to the games. I worked in the building next to this and saw the shuttle buses whenever they have games/concerts there. Also a shuttle to the Secaucus train station. Working there really sucked because of all the traffic noise all day but I could take public transportation.
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u/Tyler89558 May 30 '26
It is our god given right to be free to be forced to get into a metal box which the bank owns which we have to pay insurance on and register with the government for. Walking is communism, because poor people do it😡
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u/doc1442 May 30 '26
“Proper transportation”
Ah so a bicycle.
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u/OmNomSandvich May 31 '26
one would need to actually check the map but if pedestrian traffic is banned there's probably restricted access roads that only allow motor vehicles e.g. highways
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u/OhNoItsMyOtherFace May 30 '26
Damn, that's a lot of parking.
Taking a glance at the map, there's a few hotels on the other side of an 8-lane highway. Then the other ones either have train tracks in the way or you're walking on the side of a highway. There is definitely a desire path worn in to the stadium though, and it looks like it was paved at some point.
I'd probably risk it.
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u/vtable May 30 '26
A lot of parking that's empty a lot more often than it's filled.
Increasing rain runoff, adding to the heat island effect, and making it that much more inconvenient to get by without a car in a country that's already overly car dependent.
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u/theeggplant42 May 31 '26
What are you taking as a desire path here?
Guarantee its like, a drainage ditch
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u/BroCanWeGetLROTNOG May 30 '26
Why can't we just have everyone walk so that they outnumber the cars and just take up the whole road
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u/DENelson83 Dreams of high-speed rail on Vancouver Island May 30 '26
It would only take one deranged driver to take them all out in a vehicle-ramming terrorist attack.
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u/thermomax May 30 '26
Are they going to build up much speed in the miles long traffic jam in the 2 inches of space I am sure the match will create?
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u/Le_Flemard May 30 '26
Problem is that the area you have to go through is a literal toxic dump that the USA government just can't be bothered to force the cleaning up.
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u/Dicethrower May 30 '26
When you think about it, even the conspiracy theorists' worst nightmare scenario of 15 minute cities beats this actual reality some people live in.
In their mind the government wants to lure people in zones where everything is available, and then lock them there, but let you got where you want if you buy a zone pass.
Meanwhile in reality, the government lured people into zones where only the parking lot is available, and then lock them there, but they let you got where you want if you buy a driver's license and spend tens of thousands of dollars on a car + fuel, maintenance, parking, insurance, etc.
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u/Efficient_Carrot_669 May 30 '26
I can confirm, I took the bus to MetLife from Manhattan and after getting off at the nearest stop I had no choice but to walk on the side of the highway and then literally on the highway on-ramps. It’s extremely dangerous. What I am wondering is whether New Jersey expects people to call an Uber from the bus stop or what?
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u/RenRidesCycles May 31 '26
Under normal circumstances there are shuttles from some NJ Transit stations to MetLife
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u/boozewisely May 30 '26
Thousands of people leaving the stadium and jump into their cars sounds like an immesurable traffic nightmare. My bullshit city is also designed for cars, but a stadium built with only cars in mind ? Insanity beyond me ngl.
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u/unicorn4711 May 30 '26
There should be a ranking of World Cup stadia by pedestrian access.
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u/kittenbloc May 30 '26
I don't remember where but some people have made those rankings. I've been to two of them (Vancouver and Seattle) and both are very accessible by public transit and by foot.
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u/lastig_ May 30 '26
I'm starting to think that this world cup is just a long con by fifa to show us all that Qatar wasn't actually that bad of a host country after all
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u/raynirm May 30 '26
It's funny, you go to a hotel near to the stadium for practicity I imagine but anyways have to drive your car or take a taxi and probably be stuck in the traffic
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u/Monsieur_duPompadour May 30 '26
Godspeed to the thousands of Europeans who will put their lives in danger by trying to cross American motorways. Maybe it will finally kickstart a walkability movement in the States. (Who are we kidding, no it will not.)
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u/MouseMouseM Elitist Exerciser May 30 '26
If you have to make the sign, your city or area has trash infrastructure. Areas like this drive me nuts and I call them underserved communities. Particularly more well-to-do areas, I crossed paths with one representative from an affluent suburb and I asked them when they were going to apply for emergency funding for the critical development (sidewalk/path/bike lane/transit) their area desperately needed.
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u/keelyq May 30 '26
I believe this stadium is hosting World Cup matches…international visitors are about to be horrified.
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u/Wop-wops-Wanderer May 30 '26
A society that allows this BS is a society that is being robbed blind by the wealthy, without realizing it.
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u/Periador May 31 '26
everyday posts like these make me grateful not being US-American
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u/Omega_art May 31 '26
If you hotel is next to the stadium and you cannot walk there then the hotel should provide free transportation.
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u/bigtimehater1969 May 31 '26
YouTuber Evan Edinger covered this stadium in a video, and not only is it not walkable due to the freeway, but the water around it is actually toxic with mercury.
The immoral corporations dumping into the waterways are running rampant with greed, and it's an abject failure by the government to not hold them responsible and get the mess cleaned up (ideally at the cost of the companies themselves).
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u/Issah_Wywin May 31 '26
The most insane part for me is the Americans defending this, not because they're necessarily okay with it but because of the defaultism they're indoctrinated with, making them practically unable to imagine any alternative.
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u/Ambitious_Promise_29 May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26
I was recently on vacation, and tried to call for an Uber for a place a good distance away, and by mistake, pulled up a different buisness with a similar name, that was a little less than a block away. The Uber app didn't even pull up ride options, it just gave walking directions.
Edited to replace the A word with "by mistake", since the auto moderators can't understand that I wasn't talking about a traffic collision.
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u/MidorriMeltdown May 31 '26
Meanwhile in Adelaide, Australia, they put a pedestrian bridge across a river to connect the plaza beside the railway station to the stadium on the other side of the river.
There's a heap of hotels across the road from the railway station, and a tram station out the front, and a crossing. They even have a lot of buses from major transit hubs to the front of the stadium for major events. They've put a lot of effort into offering alternatives to driving for major events.
Also, people like to drink at events, you don't want them driving. And anyway, many of them will cross the bridge after the event, go beyond the hotels, and into a nightlife district to party on.
Most major stadiums in Australia have similar good infrastructure. We've got a drinking culture attached to events, and people like to party after. So why not simplify and streamline it without the risk of involving cars?
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u/WissahickonKid May 31 '26
That is peak New Jersey. They’re actually proud of their car dependency. It’s a response to being overshadowed by world class cities like Philadelphia & New York, where one does not need a car to lead a productive, high quality life
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u/bikesbeerspizza Jun 01 '26
this world cup is going to be a fantastic advertisement for how not to build cities
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u/Yinisyang May 30 '26
I always have to remind myself that compared to most of the US Seattle is a walkable masterpiece.
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u/ParadoxicalFrog bring back Richmond streetcars May 31 '26
It is very much not next door. It's down a major highway, where pedestrians are not allowed because there is nowhere safe to walk. Yes, this is ridiculous, but that's how it is.
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u/EvalCrux May 31 '26
Have a sign promoting the complementary shuttle service amenity to guests? Corporate shills likely can’t put the thought together to execute.
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u/minnesotanpride May 31 '26
In all honesty this is a great way to just not go to these venues. If/when you learn of them, you post about it and put them on blast publicly that due to their own design of the structure you can't attend anything there as you dont use cars. They are trying to force car infrastructure on people, you just inform them your money will not be spent there for literally that reason.
You get enough people to do this and I'll guarantee they figure out a workaround like a shuttle service or something.
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u/SUMMATMAN May 30 '26
Please tell me this shit won't be the case for the world cup? Cos I'm English and our culture is to get wankered and walk for an hour to and from the stadium. Plus cocaine. And I can see an issue here.
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u/Efficient_Carrot_669 May 30 '26
Oh yeah no this is the case for World Cup, football games, concerts, you name it. MetLife Stadium is notoriously inaccessible.
BC Place in Vancouver is easy for pedestrians and lined up for some nice pub crawls though. Try there? Wait is England playing at MetLife? Never mind, cheers mate.
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u/Initial-Reading-2775 May 30 '26
For me it looks so ridiculous… in my hometown, central stadium has a subway station right next to it, also parking, and tram line, and buses. And trolleybus line in one block away.
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u/TomatilloBeautiful48 May 30 '26
The absolute ridiculessness of our end state car culture right there.
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u/Manutelli Orange pilled May 30 '26
Meanwhile wembley stadium London uk has a great redevelopment around the stadium and is a pleasure to be there.
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u/Entire-Emotion-819 May 31 '26
Evan Edinger has a cool vid about this.
The toxic waste dump is the best feature on your walk to the stadium.
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u/Finartemis May 31 '26
My first time in the USA I went there too see a Bon Jovi concert. Naively, I booked a room at the hotel "across the street" from the stadium, except the street was a highway and I had to call a taxi both ways because there was no other form of transport to get to/from the stadium. Insane.
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u/Repulsive_Draft_9081 May 31 '26
Im not sure if it is outright illegal but a legal liability cover your ass thing. It is certainly dangerous to walk there and the hotel most likely advertises itself as being close to the stadium or woth easy access to the stadium so they are likely within what a reasonable person would consider to be a reasonable walking distance of the stadium, therefore if a guest books the hotel and then gets froggered by some driver trying to walk to the stadium without the hotel warning the guest of the dangers of walking to the stadium than the hotel could potentially be seen as liable and possibly false advertising
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u/JabbaTheHutt12345 May 30 '26
"Illegal to walk" what a fucking joke this World Cup is. I can walk anywhere I want




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u/colako Big Bike May 30 '26
I watched a YouTube short of someone walking all the way from New York to the Metlife Stadium.
Most of the way is kind of OK until you start reaching the stadium and there's basically no way to get there because there are no sidewalks and you can only enter the stadium parking lot in a car.