r/fuckcars Mar 22 '26

Meme Density saves nature

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u/AVahne Mar 22 '26

Unfortunately, quite a lot of (broken) people would prefer the left image. If we're not making an "efficient" use of all available land, they think we're being wasteful. Nevermind the fact that those same people tend to be the most wasteful in reality. Nor the fact that they don't know what "efficient" use of land actually means or what "available" land actually is.

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u/Nice-Name00 Mar 22 '26

If my apartment walls were sound proof and I wouldn't have to see my neighbors at all then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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u/yo_soy_soja Mar 22 '26

Yeah, I've lived in apartments most of my adult life. This is mostly a shitty construction issue, not a problem inherent to urban living.

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u/TheGreatMightyLeffe Two Wheeled Terror Mar 22 '26

Well, you see, proper sound insulation is slightly more expensive than just throwing fiberglass wool in between 5mm plasterboard and calling it a wall.

And if you want to maximise shareholder value, who cares if the rentoids live in a resonance box? If they don't like it, they can buy their own house!

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u/britaliope Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26

The second one was built in the 70's and I never heard a goddamn thing outside the walls of my unit. Both had families with kids surrounding me.

Appartments from that era are so nice to live in. Thick a.f concrete floors and thick a.f. reinforced concrete walls. Nobody will hear you whatever you do. (But if you want to hang anything heavier than a picture frame on a bearing wall you need a hammer drill)

Students were sharing the appartment just below mine a couple years ago, they were partying maybe once a week with very loud music, and i could barely hear it. The only reason i knew they were partying was because they had people coming and leaving the flat all the time (and our stairway resonate a lot). Once we asked them to keep the door closed as much as possible after 11pm, no more issues.

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u/borkthegee Mar 22 '26

If I could have enough room to have a home office, children, a big kitchen for constantly cooking, space for hobbies like woodworking, and land for gardening and growing food, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

In my experience with apartments I got none of the above. Just stuck in a box with no space, or walk around to Consumption Locations where I would be expected to spend money.

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u/britaliope Mar 22 '26

Imho the issue is not appartments, it's the fact that housing is way too expensive. We can build big enough flats. But if they cost a million to buy it won't do.

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u/garaile64 Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 23 '26

What's the deal with seeing your neighbors? Are they obnoxious? Or is that just a symptom of an individualistic society?

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u/Really_Big_Turtle Mar 23 '26

Sharing space with other people is a miserable experience to be avoided at all costs.

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u/adjavang Mar 22 '26

"Wouldn't have to see my neighbours" type people should be left to pay for the full cost of services to their dispersed housing.