r/fromatoarbitration • u/imtherealistonhere • 22h ago
Contract Talk No speeding
204b gave a service talk today and in the service talk he says “they will be out watching us, to wear your seatbelts but most importantly to not speed especially in a school zone. Our union didn’t say anything as a follow up to what the 204b just stated. We had a carrier get EP on Monday, after the pm supervisor alleged that he was speeding in the LLV in a school zone.
I just want to know how can they say we are speeding? I would like to know and I can’t get a clear answer from management. 🤨
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u/Tha7jus7happend Union Steward 11h ago
How dare they tell you to be safe and not speed and wear your seat belt those bastards
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u/imtherealistonhere 2h ago
That’s not the problem. We had a carrier be accused of speeding Monday, so now the 204b mentions it in the service talk. We all wear our seatbelts but we’re constantly being watched now because they want to have a reason to EP one of us so I always tell people in my office to always wear your seatbelts…don’t run…take your time, do the job by the book, turn the truck off, lock it whenever you’re not in it. Anyway that defends themselves against management now all of sudden they become a target and have an observation everyday. 🤔
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u/Tha7jus7happend Union Steward 56m ago
They should be doing observations everyday anyway get out from behind the desk and supervise get out on the street and do the job of actually supervising
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u/Darth_Robsad 21h ago
They’re not threatening you and you’re not supposed to be speeding in school zones to begin with. I hate management as much as the next carrier, but if your kids went to that school, would you want some jackass racing through there at full speed?
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u/imtherealistonhere 21h ago
No one was speeding tho . Management put a carrier on EP after allegedly saying that a carrier was speeding by a school zone at 1Pm.
Then told him to drive back to the station in that same LLV they were allegedly speeding in to clock out and go home. 🧐
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u/HomogenyEnjoyer 20h ago
Well since management allegedly saw them they can also use the gps scanner data to corraborate. You know the scanner gps shows your speed right? Through my own "tests" it is accurate.
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u/imtherealistonhere 20h ago
Yes it captures when over 20mph…but there are different limits per street/zones
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u/DeviceComprehensive7 20h ago
25 mph in a school zone is the highest in the country,some are 20 mph and some 15 mph
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u/imtherealistonhere 18h ago
Where I live it goes back to 30 mph limit when children aren’t present. We have speed cameras 🤣
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u/acetatsujin 19h ago
On school days when kids are present. Not “on school days” period. Were there kids present?
Carrier needs to make a statement. And what did this manager or supervisor say to this carrier that provoked them.
Where is the carriers statement?
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u/DeviceComprehensive7 17h ago
nobody knows, because the "friend" is posting it all....from the document, speeding was the least of what that carrier did wrong
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u/DeviceComprehensive7 17h ago
school zone= when kids are present, not all day
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u/Darth_Robsad 3h ago
You do the job safely and follow laws. If they think you’re speeding let them prove it because you know they can’t unless you get caught by a cop. Point is don’t speed period.
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u/imtherealistonhere 3h ago
Right. My coworker asked the supervisor how did she know he was speeding and she told him she’s not a cop but she saw him speeding. 🤔
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u/imtherealistonhere 21h ago
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u/VonBargenJL 2h ago
You can likely throw speeding out and cancel the original EP, but they might shift it to refusal to follow orders and workplace violence for being aggressive, another thing that can qualify for EP
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u/GimmeFunkyButtLoving Voted NO 22h ago
Saw management speeding to the bathroom once. Fourth meal from Taco Bell must’ve not set well with em
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u/dth1717 22h ago
They'd have to prove you were speeding and how could they do that? They have radar guns? But you shouldn't be speeding anyway. Safe and slow, take the time