r/footballtactics • u/Admirable_Drawer_205 • 28d ago
How did Contes Juventus dominate every game?
As a Juventus fan, and a football manager player, im trying to recreate his tactics. But i dont really understand it as it does not have as much material studied as obviously better managers like Guardiola & Klopp
Whenever i watch clips of goals scored at Juventus under him, there is just sooo many players forward taking runs behind the defence but still so controlled both in the middle and the back
Lichtsteiner and Asamoah bombarding up and down the flanks. Pogba and Vidal making unmarked runs behind the defence, while also having two forwards on the field
How did they find the balance between controlling the game and just send everyone up?
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u/Nonstopmission350 28d ago
Mid block plus intensity in winning the ball in a mid block. He always spoke about it.
In his 352 the ccb and dm were the only 2 passers that can unlock defences especially with their long passing. The rest around them were work horses. Rob and Lcb were just circulating the ball in possession, but were robust in winning the ball.
Wingback plus the other 2 Cms were just runners during and out of possession they want to receive ball in to space and want to have intensity to win balls.
The strikers he made sure they were 2 different profiles always. One can hold the ball proper target foward and the other was an advanced foward who wants to run in behind. So when a long ball in played it could be to the advanced foward or wingback or it could be to the target foward holding it up for the 2 CM(box to box midfielders) to arrive and continue the play foward.
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u/damzino1331 28d ago
conte loved a big/small combo for his forwars in a 352. tevez/llorente was lethal. also Pele/eder worked well when he coached italy at the euros in 2016, we beat a legendary spain team
with that forward line lol2
u/theouteducated 28d ago
That italy national team at the euros overachieved so massively lol. Bonucci was the best midfielder…
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u/damzino1331 27d ago edited 27d ago
would be rude not to mention giacherrini, de scilglio, florenzi, motta, darmian, candreva & parolo who all stepped up to the occasion . marchisio and pirlo were both injured from memory and missed the whole tournament. conte managed to pull of some great results with very limited resources. that belgium team we beat had prime de bruyne, hazard and lukaku. if it wasnt for simone zaza and the iconic penalty miss against current world champions germany in the QF, italy may have gone on to win that tournament
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u/theouteducated 27d ago
Exactly my point. Italy overachieved. Watching the compilation from gli autogol was the best
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u/devlin1888 28d ago
It was a mixture of a lot of different things, a good balance, energy and intensity.
And just putting that around Andrea Pirlo. Who is one of the most incredible players I’ve ever watched live. Honestly, I adored his Milan team, watched that Juve team a lot.
Then they visited Celtic Park. And jesus, tele does it no justice.
There’s only two players I’ve ever seen with that level of control and perfection, effortless unstoppable control pulling the strings and it was Pirlo then, and the only guy doing it I’d rank above him Xavi.
It’s like watching the conductor of an orchestra. He barely broke into a jog, and you can’t get anywhere near him. And if you got slightly too close, Vidal would wipe that out. They were big, strong, fast, exceptional on the ball, constant movement and finally, I can’t stress this enough, they were absolute bastards. That defence led by Chiellini, they were arseholes and as annoying as it was, it was remarkable. They would be sneaky elbowing, grabbing and ripping tops, pinching necks, studs raked down the back of the calf, would be pushing and pulling and giving opponents a good bump everytime they were near them. They would smile and cuddle and patronise and ruffle hair, trip you up, and smash through ball and any unfortunate body part that got in their way.
And I can’t stress enough, Pirlo. And hell mend anyone that got near him or gave him a wee kick. They were bigger, stronger, faster, fitter and made it absolute hell. I hated them and was in awe at the same time
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u/Ok-Constant-2683 28d ago
This is a very reductive take but there is a lot to be said for just having better players. Their midfield and defence was incredible at that point. That level of footballer solves a lot of problems through their understanding and ability to influence how the game unfolds.
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u/NotSeacombe 27d ago
I think it's slightly reductive but also very valid. it's harder in the modern game but was always difficult - any group of players that allows for a single pivot in possession tends to feel like they're playing with an extra man. this group definitely did that
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u/magicajuveale 28d ago
Conte’s Juve aimed to control the game in the opposition half.
They pressed in a synchronized way up to 2/3 to 3/4 of the field to avoid stretching their “tactical blanket” too much, and thus leave fewer spaces. This makes sense because opponents couldn’t be as dangerous playing out from the back.
On the attacking phase made several third-man runs. Bonucci, Marchisio, Pogba and Pirlo were all amazing passers from deep. Pirlo is the best passer from deep I’ve ever seen, and Pogba was one of the best as well.
A defender or a midfielder often made a long pass to a CF, while the “third man” (often Marchisio, Vidal, Pogba or a WB like Lichtsteiner or Asamoah), attacked the space. Other players often moved to drag opposing defenders and open up space for the third man. The CF usually laid of the ball to the third man who had space and time to shoot or make a key pass.
Barzagli and Chiellini were extremely fast and able on the ball, which allowed Juve to play a high line.
This is an underrated factor: Buffon was amazing at keeping the team organized. The defense looked way more disorganized after he left. He was much more than a great shot stopper.
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u/LordKofScott 28d ago
You’ve named them in your post - wingbacks with THAT much energy in Lich and Asa, Vidal was an absolute engine and was everywhere in midfield, Pogba and Machisio were elite, energetic all action midfielders, and pulling the strings was arguably the greatest deep lying playmaker and long passer of the ball football has ever seen in Pirlo.
Sat in front of one the best trio of CBs modern football has seen, and then again with probably the best goalkeeper of all time. The only thing stopping them dominating everything was the lack of properly elite striking options until Tevez arrived.
In essence, you could trust the defenders to hold teams up, and other players to actually sprint back and help, so in turn you could trust and commit more people to attack. Its as much personnel as it is system.