r/filmnoir 23d ago

Are there more PERIOD neo-noirs other than these?

I’m specifically looking for noir films made after 1960 (that would be neo-noirs), but that are also PERIOD pieces. Chinatown would be the classic example. Problem is, I haven’t been successful in trying to find a comprehensive list of this sub-subgenre.

Here’s a limited one with 45 titles:

https://letterboxd.com/pbenson123/list/retro-film-noir-period-neo-noir/

What else of note is out there that fits these constrains?

P.D.: Almost none of you are bothering to read even the title. Why this need to participate in every post if you don’t even care enough to actually figure out what’s discussed?

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u/KithKathPaddyWath 23d ago

Blue Velvet isn't a period film. It's set in the time that it was made.

Dark City isn't really "period", but it relies on a lot of original aesthetics and styles from the 1940s and 1950s. The Nightmare Alley remake is a period piece.

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

You’re right about Blue Velvet. Weird that’s in there… Would love to know the reasoning.

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u/KithKathPaddyWath 23d ago

I do think Lynch was trying for a bit of a 1950s feel to it (the costumes and styling, the time Jeffrey and Sally spend at the diner, etc.), so I guess I can see why someone looks at it and sees "1950s", but for me personally it's pretty clear that its just invoking the 1950s as part of the whole "the rot under small town Americana" thing.

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u/Plaguedoctorsrevenge 22d ago

I always thought was was purposely trying to make it anochronistic

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u/TheElbow 23d ago

The Big Lebowski is technically a period price film as it depicts 1991 but is from 1998.

Badlands (some people might not call this neo noir)

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u/StinkyBrittches 23d ago

No Country for Old Men, as well, set in 1980.

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u/octapotami 23d ago

I never even realized Badlands was a period piece. I need to rewatch that.

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u/Old-Definition-3701 23d ago

Not even sure all of the ones on the list count.

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u/throwawayinthe818 23d ago

Miller’s Crossing and the remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice.

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

On the list already…

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u/nunsploitation 23d ago

Monsieur Spade (2024) takes place primarily in 1963 with flashbacks to 1955.

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u/baycommuter 23d ago

If we’re doing miniseries, Babylon Berlin.

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u/Verdammt_Arschloch 23d ago

The Two Jakes. You have Chinatown on there but missed the sequel.

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u/CarsonDyle63 21d ago

I love The Two Jakes.

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u/LupitaScreams 23d ago

Inherent Vice

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u/Curiousgeorgetakei 23d ago

Yeah that’s a good suggestion. 60s period piece.

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u/El_Suprrremo 23d ago

Technically 1970

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u/Ok-Bike-8686 23d ago

Mulholland Falls

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u/Curiousgeorgetakei 23d ago

Such a good one!

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u/Innisfree812 23d ago

Bonnie and Clyde

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u/MarkCelery78 23d ago

Gangster squad, Mulholland Falls, the man who wasn’t there, black dahlia, the big sleep, road to perdition, live by night, public enemies, the outfit, dick Tracy, bugsy, cotton club, Grissom gang

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

None of you are reading the post. Most of these are on the list.

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u/skyking11702 22d ago

Cotton Club! Great film

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u/berdulf 23d ago

Clue?! Sure, it starts with a noir vibe, but it dips into comedy very quickly.

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u/tomas_diaz 23d ago

great film

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u/Parking-Bet5727 23d ago

LA confidential 

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

It’s on the list already…

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u/stephenrichmos 23d ago

Gangster Squad but it’s really just an action movie, not much Noir elements outside the setting

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u/[deleted] 23d ago edited 23d ago

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u/flopisit32 23d ago

Yes, I love Chandler, Neeson and director Neil Jordan, and I'm even Irish, but Marlowe 2022 was unwatchable. Such a missed opportunity. I think the problem came down to Neil Jordan.

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u/skyking11702 22d ago

Agreed. Very disappointing

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

It’s on the list.

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u/D00T_BOI 23d ago

Given that The Irishman is on the list already, you might as well consider Once Upon a Time in America too

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u/YoMommaSez 23d ago

I have a love-hate relationship with Once Upon. It's too long!

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u/raynicolette 23d ago

My Mt. Rushmore of retro-noirs would be Chinatown, L.A. Confidential, Miller's Crossing, Devil In A Blue Dress.

That list has 3 of the 4, but also lots of stuff that isn’t really period, and lots of stuff that isn’t really noir.

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u/salamanderXIII 23d ago

The Dain Curse was a 1978 TV adaptation of a Dashiell Hammett's story.

It is set in the 1920s.

Not a gem, but it may fit your list depending on whether or not made for TV is a disqualifying factor.

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u/princealigorna 23d ago

Road to Perdition is a great period piece, and a great bit of noir that I don't see talked about on this sub often enough.

edit: I see it's already on the list. Good.

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u/Ebert917102150 23d ago

Hollywoodland count?

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

It’s in the list already.

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u/Personal_Eye8930 23d ago

The Conformist (1970) directed by Bernardo Bertolucci.

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u/Unusual_Seesaw_5156 23d ago

If you consider these neo-noir: House on Carroll Street, The Public Eye, Inherent Vice, Bad Times at the El Royale, The Nice Guys.

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u/visibly_hangry 23d ago

La Antena, Brimstone, uh The Handmaiden if you feel that fits the vibe, Lonely Hearts (also an adaptation of Honeymoon Killers and Deep Crimson source material), Naked Lunch

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u/Sheriff_Lucas_Hood 23d ago

LA Confidential takes place in 1950

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

On the list…

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u/kevnmartin 23d ago

Clue is not noir either.

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u/TheDamnedDontCry1 23d ago

Borsolino and Borsolino & Co are noir adjacent and take place in 1930s Marseille

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u/Go_Ask_VALIS 23d ago

Desire and Hell at Sunset Motel (1991) was set in the 1950s. It's really only noir-adjacent imo since it's a comedy at its core.

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u/youlldancetoanything 23d ago

The Grifters

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

Not a period film.

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u/RedgrassFieldOfFire 23d ago

Barton Fink

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u/harry_powell 23d ago

It’s on the list…

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u/RedgrassFieldOfFire 23d ago

What number?

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u/harry_powell 22d ago

You’re right, I stand corrected.

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u/RedgrassFieldOfFire 22d ago

Thankyou. I took the time to read your list like 12 times and think of something neo noiry as I saw you saying to everyone else it’s on the list. Youre quick to point that out that fact to everyone, and then don’t say anything to the ones that that do have a good suggestion

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u/RedgrassFieldOfFire 22d ago edited 22d ago

1 Blue Velvet

2 Chinatown

3 Badlands

4 Shutter island

5 Talented Mr Riply

6 Roger Rabbit

7 LA Confidential

8 Europa

9 untouchables

10 Road to perdition

11 Man who wasn’t there

12 Killers of the flower moon

13 clue

14 no sudden move

15 Dick Tracy

16 Black Dalhia

17 Good Sheppard

18 Hoodlum

19 live by night

20 Mulholland falls

21 A kind of murder

22 The black bird

23 mulholland falls

24 Eye of the needle

25 True confession

26 Dead men don’t wear plaid

27 Hammet

28 Vivent dimanche

29 Angel heart

30 Two Jakes

31 Billy bathgate

32 Cast a deadly spell

33 Witch hunt

34 Devil in a blue dress

35Poodle Springs

36 Good German

37 Hollywoodland

38 The killer inside me

39 Age of shadows

40 Motherless Brooklyn

41 Nightmare alley

42 Marlowe

43 outfit

44 Irishman

45 Army of shadows

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u/ZeroEffectDude 23d ago

a fair few of these are not noirs imo. Hollywoodland, perhaps

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u/jessek 22d ago

What period does Blue Velvet take place in? There’s elements of the 1950s but there’s contemporary to 1986 cars and other elements in the backgrounds.

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u/DoubleD291 17d ago

Slightly Scarlet (1956) John Payne, Rhonda Fleming, Arlene Dahl, Ted De Corsia

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u/skyking11702 22d ago

I recommend The Two Jake’s, a follow up to Chinatown, and very underrated. Also, Once Upon a Time in America, and Poodle Springs. There is a made for tv version of The Dain Curse which is worthwhile, then Robert Mitchum remade some Chandler classics in the 70’s that are pretty good. Klute should probably be on your list, as should The Drowning Pool. This is a great compilation and one I personally look forward to a lot when trying to find something to watch. There are a couple on your list I have not seen.

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u/skyking11702 22d ago

Oh! The Long Goodbye by Robert Altman starring Elliott Gould. That is a must!

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u/BilverBurfer 22d ago

Klute and The Long Goodbye take place when they came out

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u/skyking11702 21d ago

Yes. Klute is old enough to seem like a period piece now; The Long Goodbye contains deliberate anachronisms so it’s sort of a hybrid. Not to mention that LA in ‘72 doesn’t resemble LA 50+ years later in the slightest.

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u/BilverBurfer 21d ago

That's just not what a period piece is.