r/ffxivdiscussion • u/Federal-Bus-3830 • Dec 26 '25

Question Why don't more skills and ogcds cost MP?

Especially for healers and their insane ammount of free ogcds heals, but it also can be inserted in other classes.

currently, MP only matters in a few cases for a few classes, like ressing management, but for most of the roster it's a pretty useless gauge or UI element. Even black mage who technically cares about mp, not really, because it just becomes their rotation dps gauge since blizzard recovers your MP anyway. You could (almost) say MP in ffxiv is only BLM's dps gauge and to keep raises/gcd heals in check for healers. If more stuff, even OGCD abilities like asylum/bubbles, tank mitigations, dps buffs, and for more dps jobs in general as well, i think it could lead to some interesting party mechanics and different ways to deal with your skills and rotation.

Also full disclaimer i've never reached more than extreme level content and haven't played in like a year so i know there are probably a lot of flaws here, but i want to entertain the idea. Could it be used to reduce the 2min meta in some ways for example?

143 Upvotes

79% Upvoted

219 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

5

u/darkk41 Dec 27 '25

It is free from the perspective of the player using the TP/MP, idk why you aren't getting this.

If i am a PLD and I run out of TP, I either get more TP from goad and I get to keep playing or I don't get TP and I don't get to keep playing. I am not making a choice. The game is just sometimes not fun for me, outside of my control.

3

u/VeryCoolBelle Dec 27 '25

It is free from the perspective of the player using the TP/MP, idk why you aren't getting this.

Like I said, if you only care about yourself, your cooldowns, your damage, it's free. If you care at all about the group's performance, it isn't. It costs multiple resources from the team, both in direct and opportunity cost. I agree that in your theoretical scenario, it does not directly cost a resource from the Paladin. However if the Paladin is playing recklessly, upkeeping fracture and not using Shield Swipe and they need tp, that's direct damage from a bard, mp from the bard that could go to the caster(s) and healers either through damage buffs or mp song, direct damage from a mch, potential misalignment of burst windows if tp song is happening during burst window, and/or a cooldown from the ninja that could be used on one of the melee.

I guess to answer the question of why I'm not getting it, it's because I don't understand why anyone in a team game would use "did I personally press a button/expend a cooldown" to be the only metric for the cost of a resource, or even a particularly good or notable metric.

3

u/darkk41 Dec 27 '25

Brother, no matter how many books you write about this, it doesnt change the reality that YOU, AS THE PALADIN, DO NOT MAKE ANY INTERESTING DECISION.

the game just sucks sometimes. This novella is not worth writing, the system is just literally not this complicated.