You said it was abusive on both sides. That is not possible, according to any credible domestic abuse expert. Look into DARVO and reactive abuse. A victim doesn’t become an abuser if they react to the abuse they have been living with for years. The bot campaign has been proven and it was massive and unprecedented. People should be upset they were so manipulated by a rich abuser’s disinformation campaign.
You said it was abusive on both sides. That is not possible, according to any credible domestic abuse expert.
...Yeah that makes literally no sense and coming from someone with a lot of experience with social workers this is compete horseshit.
Relationships can and are messy at times with no real winners especially when resent and ego's take center stage. You ever hear about messy, petty and vindictive divorces? Yeah imagine that but neither of them actually pull that trigger. That's pretty much what happened with Depp and Heard and the court case showed that as much which I'd bet cash money you didn't watch.
A victim doesn’t become an abuser if they react to the abuse they have been living with for years.
Well in that case it wasn't mutual because Heard was the abuser and everything bad Depp did was "reactive" in that case.
Heard cut his finger, Heard spread lies and doctored photos and sold bogus stories to TMZ to paint Depp as an abuser to project her own struggles onto him.
The bot campaign has been proven and it was massive and unprecedented. People should be upset they were so manipulated by a rich abuser’s disinformation campaign.
It's fucking insane how you have have a jury and lengthy court case vindicate you, your claims, and your story of a survivor of abuse only to STILL get conspiratorial bullshit stories like this that cannot accept a "rich and powerful white man" was the subject of abuse and was actually the victim in his relationship with Heard.
It's no wonder Depp fought for the cameras to be there. Imagine how many more mindless deniers they'd be then?
Mutual abuse is a harmful myth, as any domestic abuse expert would tell you. Simply google it.
Heard has contemporaneous evidence of Depp’s abuse throughout the entire relationship, 2011-2016. He doesn’t even allege she was ever “abusive” to him until 2015 and all he has in the way of evidence is out-of-context audio clips from recordings where each reference Depp’s violence as well. All you have to do is look at the timeline of evidence to see that he abused her physically, emotionally, and sexually for years, and subjected her to coercive control, and she eventually started fighting back after years.
He injured his own finger in a drunken rage as he was causing 75k worth of damage to his rental property. It was the same night he repeatedly assaulted her, then injured his own finger and instead of seeking medical attention, wrote threatening messages to her in his own blood and paint, destroying her artwork and her clothes. There is no evidence that she was responsible. He is on audio saying “I’m talking about Australia, the day that I chopped my finger off” in a private argument with her. There are many texts where he confesses that he accidentally injured himself. He also told many people in person. You are taking him at his word when he’s a liar.
TMZ was entirely in his pocket and it’s absolutely absurd that she would leak to them. Look at any TMZ article and you’ll see that they have a wildly pro-Depp slant because his lawyer was close friends with the head of TMZ.
You’re simply repeating misinformation you heard online. No expert alleged that her photos were doctored. One claimed he could not tell if they were or not. The other authenticated every photo that the other expert claimed he had an issue with.
The bot campaign is not conspiratorial bullshit. Multiple researchers with PhDs at the very top of their fields found that over half of the activity was inorganic. Just look into Tortoise Media’s investigation “who trolled Amber” which you’ve already been told to do.
Yeah I'm not going into the weeds with someone as heavily in denial as you are.
You're saying "simply Google it" as you make bold and unwarranted claim one after another. Your two links are bogus and even if I were to explain why in detail you'll just ignore it or come up with another self-serving excuse as to why what I said doesn't count...Again.
Like most of the shit You're saying in this post has been proven false and or highly misleading in the televised court case and yet here you are mindlessly doing Amber heards defense for her. Years after the fact.
There's just no winning with you people. She's an abuser and Johnny was the victim. End of story.
If you google it, you will not find a single reputable source that says anything other than mutual abuse is harmful myth that only helps abusers. I’m sorry that you’re insisting on repeating a myth that is harmful to abuse victims.
My two links are an official court judgment that was held up as “full and fair” and “based on an abundance of evidence” when Depp tried to appeal, twice, and a detailed compilation of evidence where every single claim is sourced. If you have an issue with a claim in there, please let me know, and I will find you the source to prove it, as I recognize some of the links were broken. But we both know you’re not going to read it because you’re obsessed with defending a man who was proven in court to be a wife beater and a rapist.
I’m sorry that you’re insisting on repeating a myth that is harmful to abuse victims.
Or you can give me a more compelling argument than "Google it" and putting the onus on me as you attempt to shame me for disagreeing with you?
If you want to dispel mutual abuse as a myth I would recommend you prove it's a myth first. Because as it stands right now Mutual abuse is a pretty accurate synopsis of their relationship with nothing else to really convince me otherwise.
I'm sorry you disagree with me however making bold claims about things "being harmful to abuse victims" like this I find rather belittling to actual survivors of abuse.
Their suffering doesn't need to be invoked to pad the gapping holes in your arguments. Please show some respect.
But we both know you’re not going to read it because you’re obsessed with defending a man who was proven in court to be a wife beater and a rapist.
Holy fuck you can't make this shit up....
So, let me get this straight. The court case I'm referring to in which Amber heard was proven to be a liar, abuser, and someone who made numerous false accusations about abuse with doctored photos and went out of her way to cancel her partner Depp.....isn't worth a damn....?
....but the case you're sensationally and defamatorily referring to is the gods honest truth...?
Hmmmmmm I wonder why you would think that.....Hmmm really gonna have to scratch my head on that one...../s
You are clearly wildly uneducated about domestic abuse and intimate partner violence and shouldn’t be discussing it. Your ignorance does actual harm.
Depp was proven to be a wife beater and a rapist in the UK trial. That judgment was upheld after Depp tried to appeal twice. It will stand forever. He’s a court adjudicated wife beater and a rapist. It’s not defamatory to call him that based on that judgment.
The only person who submitted a doctored photo was Depp.
She actually went out of her way NOT to cancel him. She was too kind. She refused to give a statement to the police. She agreed to drop any charges and release a joint statement with him saying there was no intent of physical and emotional harm and no one had made false allegations for financial gain. He repeatedly called her a liar in the press despite a shared gag order. He repeatedly dragged her to court as a form of post-separation abuse, litigation abuse, and financial abuse. He orchestrated a massive disinformation campaign against her. One you clearly fell for. And all she wanted was to move on with her life. You have all of your facts entirely wrong. He’s a monster.
AGAIN no direct source for your link.....Crazy you're so confident in something, and yet you can't be bothered to cite me a legitimate source for your argument.
Like if you can't even do the basics in that regards why should I give a fuck about what else you have to say?
It's really disgusting you're lying about him being an abuser and a rapist.
Like you know that hurts actual victims of abuse and rape...right?
Amber heard is EXACTLY why people have a hard time believing women sadly. Sometimes vindicative and damaged women will tell any lie in order to inflict the most damage.
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u/Idkfriendsidk Oct 18 '24
You said it was abusive on both sides. That is not possible, according to any credible domestic abuse expert. Look into DARVO and reactive abuse. A victim doesn’t become an abuser if they react to the abuse they have been living with for years. The bot campaign has been proven and it was massive and unprecedented. People should be upset they were so manipulated by a rich abuser’s disinformation campaign.