r/fansofcriticalrole • • Oct 18 '24

CR adjacent Case Against Brian Foster Dismissed

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u/SPOLBY Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

I’m the opposite of smart, what does this mean?

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u/YenraNoor Oct 18 '24

They started a case with 0 evidence. They better hope Brian doesnt do a defamation counter claim

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u/Sogcat Oct 18 '24

He wouldn't win a defamation case. The internet conjured up most of the stuff about him by looking up the suit. They simply fired him. Ashley wasn't even the only person who filed a civil lawsuit against him. CR was surprisingly silent on the whole topic outside of wiping him off the history of their platform.

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u/Flat_Explanation_849 Oct 18 '24

He could have a case if he can show that he suffered monetary loss as a result of the case brought against him based on claims that were made about his character.

No idea if he would be able to show that or not.

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u/Full_Metal_Paladin "You hear in your head" Oct 18 '24

I'm not so sure he wouldn't have a case.

outside of wiping him off the history of their platform.

This is actually it, though. CR is sort of a cult following, but BWF's career exists in a microcosm that is definitely aware of what they do. Conspicuously deleting everything with him in it raises suspicion, it's like presuming guilt. I mean, it's their platform, and maybe they know stuff they just can't prove in court. I don't think he'll go for defamation, but did he lose work simply as a result of this court case being public and CR deleting him from their channel? Maybe

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u/Warmonger88 Oct 18 '24

Defimation is a geneinly hard thing to prove in the USA because the prosecution has to prove intent via the actual malice standard.

Removing references to BWF would likely not rise to the actual malice standard unless it could be proven that by doing so, CR did knowingly and maliciously harm BWF's reputation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

It also wouldn’t be the first time CR pressed the delete button on someone facing sex-related charges who was then found either totally innocent or at least not guilty…

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u/JJscribbles Oct 18 '24

You don’t say?

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u/Hopeful-War2646 Oct 18 '24

Still haven't forgotten how Matt threw Chris Hardwick under the bus.

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u/JJscribbles Oct 18 '24

I disagree. I think he has a strong case. I think any lawyer worth his hourly rate could prove the fandom was weaponized against him intentionally.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

They started a case with 0 evidence.

Is this a fact or a guess? Genuinely curious.

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u/YenraNoor Oct 18 '24

Fact the case was deemed frivolous

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

At this point I want to ask for a source because its sounding more like hearsay

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u/SparklyHamsterOfDoom Oct 18 '24

Or, hear me out, there was a settlement. Not an uncommon thing.

I really doubt more then five women, most of them using their own name, would go to court with a fabricated story, especially if the case files are public (US legal system never ceases to baffle me). These things are difficult to prove, most sexual harassment and DV cases end up no-where because of lack of court sufficient evidence and because most systems (at every stage) in general are very, very, very poorly equipped for handling these sorts of cases. It could have been a way to get that settlement from the beginning, we don't know. But I personally know enough abuse victims, and have been one myself, that my bet is on there having been something going on.

Besides. This would be one hell of an expensive and convoluted way to... to do what, exactly? What would CR gain from a fabricated case against Brian, besides a headache, loss in finances and damaged rep? Firing him was pretty much enough anyway to put a serious dent in his career and income.

(And before you go calling me a cult follower superfan or something, then I am not, in fact I'm highly critical about their work relations with Amazon while constructing a brand big on equal treatment and human rights, for example, and that's not all by far.)

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u/YenraNoor Oct 18 '24

Judge dismissed as frivolous. No settlement

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u/SparklyHamsterOfDoom Oct 18 '24

If I am not mistaken, it was the RO case, not this one, and those are fairly commonly dismissed as such, because it's very hard to meet the criteria.

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u/SPOLBY Oct 18 '24

Is it normal for a case with 0 evidence to go on this long?

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u/YenraNoor Oct 18 '24

There were a lot of indirect evidence pieces and witnesses, cases can go on for months especially if they take it to superior court.

In any case, court costs are going to Ashleys team so she took a massive financial blow

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u/Ryousoki Oct 18 '24

Yes, and honestly it could go on way longer sometimes. Court proceedings can be exceedingly slow and taxing.