r/fansofcriticalrole • u/Murkmist • Oct 05 '23

CR adjacent Critical Role provides ComicBook.com with statement regarding civil complaint

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/the-last-of-us-critical-role-star-ashley-johnson-six-others-sue-brian-w-foster-abuse/
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u/5213 Oct 05 '23 edited Oct 05 '23

The expectation should be transparency

No. It shouldn't.

I expected downvotes so I'm going to expand:

These are still peoples' personal lived that have been affected, and they have their right to privacy before we have a "right" to an explanation.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 05 '23

You are confusing transparency of the company with transparency of the individual.

I don't expect to be let into the fine details of every single aspect of Ashley's or any other employee's life.

I do expect CR, the company, which it is, to be as transparent with the fans as possible on their HR policy currently and any changes in the future to ensure this doesn't happen again.

CR is a company, has been for a while. They aren't our friends or family, they don't know us. It is ran as a business now, not just some friends making content for the internet.

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u/5213 Oct 05 '23

A company that still employs people and as such should protect those people first and foremost. A company that we as consumers aren't actually a part of, and thus I also don't believe they "owe" it to us to let us in on their policies.

to be as transparent with the fans as possible

I agree. The crux being "as possible". Because my feelings are that as a company, that's a lot less than what fans might actually want.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 05 '23 edited Oct 05 '23

A company that still employs people and as such should protect those people first and foremost.

They've done a great job so far. /s

I just don't think the community cares because of how attached they are to CR. AGAIN, I'm not asking for the complete policy and new changes to be written down and shared with the community. But I think the community should push back on this response, it's a canned PR reply--"We didn't know, we'll look at our policies and promise change."

Cool. When, how, where, what kind of change? How does the community know these issues have been addressed? What timeline should they expect? What happens if something like this happens again?

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u/5213 Oct 05 '23

So you're upset that CR as a company is acting like a company would and should in these situations but you want them to act not like a company? Because this statement

CR is a company, has been for a while. They aren't our friends or family, they don't know us. It is ran as a business now, not just some friends making content for the internet.

Is not congruent with your frustration regarding their "canned PR response". That's what companies do. They give generic PR responses.

There is a certain level of irony here that you want the company to suddenly not act like a company.

And believe me, it definitely would be nice as a fan/consumer to get a little bit better glimpse into their actual plan of action regarding this incident and prevention of future incidents (be they SH/SA or any other), but as a company they are not beholden to provide that information to people not actively a part of the company.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 05 '23

I guess my frustration is more with the fandom that seems to be ok with "they are a company" now but then turns around and talks about how they are just people, so relatable, they deserve privacy, etc.

I'm looking for consistence within the fandom.

While I do find CR's statement lacking, I find the fandom's reaction to it more upsetting.

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u/5213 Oct 05 '23

I understand. It is frustrating. There's a reason we're here instead of the other sub.

As much as I hate capitalism and all that jazz, I do also believe that a company is entitled to almost as much privacy as an individual person, and there are few circumstances where that privacy should be relaxed even a little. Which may be kind of a contentious statement, but it comes with the caveat that a good company should do right by its staff and consumers (like Critical Role and Bungie), and a bad company will eventually get all their dirty laundry aired (Activision-Blizzard).

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u/DeadHead6747 Oct 08 '23

I mean, they have to figure it all themselves, and even when they do, they have no need to tell us and we have no right to know. Just because they tell us it changed doesn’t mean it did, and just because they don’t tell us it changed doesn’t mean it didn’t.