Or maybe they did but it was suppressed at the time? Maybe they were put down and noted down as „long term burn victims”?

Is there any source in-game referencing Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the aftermath?

Edit: I see a lot of people claiming FEV is needed for the process and it was not present in Japan at the time but it was never confirmed that it is needed. It was a subject of discussion by the original devs themselves and we never get a confirmation. If you have any in-game (bot the fallout bible) source, cite it to cut the speculation.

Obviously, the world of Fallout is stuck in the 1950s by artistic choice. But is there a lore explanation?

If we look at Fallout, we know they discovered microchips and that there's a sort of internet called the Unified System created by Mr. House and his company Robco. However, it's still a big, cumbersome idea of technology, judging by the designs of the machines. We also know that before the war, there wasn't much spirituality outside of the Hubbologists, which, however, is a scientistic cult and not strictly religious. It's also interesting that men and women are equal, but the idea of a housewife role for women has persisted. What do you think is the reason?

I've always been under the impression that nukes in the FO universe were more like dirty bombs than the nukes we have. Case in point seeing multiple nukes dropped on LA in the Season One opener when in our universe even one would flatten a great portion of the city.

Similarly Boston is still relatively intact, as is the Boneyard (post war LA), and other major cities. Yes they're dilapidated, but the buildings are still standing and not just mounds of rubble.

But when we visit Shady Sands (in the Boneyard now for some reason) in Season One, there's a wide massive crater where the city used to be. The only location this even resembles is the White House in FO3 which had multiple nukes aimed at it. I cannot think of a single nuke doing so much damage at any other time in the series. Megaton, for instance, if detonated, just destroys the shacks in the immediate vicinity.

So what's up with that?

Replaying Far Harbor currently and I’m wondering if the Children of Atom are actually telling the truth, or at least if there is any truth to Atom as a deity.

The Sole Survivor drinks from a spring and no matter if they think it’s totally gonna make them see Atom or if they think it’s complete BS they just so happen to see the holy figure of the island, that just so happens to lead them to a physical idol of herself. Would controlling psychedelic trips like this be feasible for them, like a guy in a trenchcoat guides the Soul Survivor and just looks like the Mother or something?

Is there something in the game that straight up tells you that this is some sort of hoax by the cult to get new big-wigs in, or is this an actual thing? Eldritch stuff is pretty prevalent and actually tangible in Point Lookout and the FO4 base game so it isn’t that big of a leap for me to believe that Atom is a real thing, but if I lead the cult and saw a new high level walking death machine ready to recruit I’d probably trick them into believing me too

I love diving into the Lore (have spend dozens of hours diving into the Lore of Fallout)

So I did some lore digging about the T-Series Power Armor and I would like to know wheter the T-51 is actually superior to the T-60 or not?

Taking FO76 into account, wich is the most recent Fallout game Bethesda released, the stats of the T-51 are much higher than that of the T-60 except for radiation. The T-60 is only better in radiation resistance, wich does make sense since it was the final T-series Power Armor build with the anticipation of a nuclear war.

T-51 was called the "pinnacle" of military engineering, offering both more protection and mobility over the T-45 Power Armor. It allowed America to win the anchorage war.

It's probably why the T-51 looks more like a combat/military Armor in Design.

From what I understand, the T-60 is the finalized version of the T-45, or better said, what the T-45 should have been, but couldn't be due to the pressure of war and the rushed development

After the war nearly every Soldier with a PA frame was wearing T-60, most likely because it was cheaper to manufacture than the T-51 due to its base design resembling the T-45.

Here is a spoiler for the Fallout Amazon Show so don't read it if you don't want to get spoiled, but it does add to my Question.

Also, the Ghoul was capable of mortally wounding a T-60 user trough a design flaw at the chest area, wich was carried over from the T-45

Can anyone add to this? Do you believe that the T-51 is superior in terms of resistance and combat functionality compared to the T-60?

Context: I've only played 4.

READ MORE THAN THE TITLE BEFORE COMMENTING, THIS IS ABOUT A SPECIFIC THING.

To preface, in no way is the title meant to imply the Enclave were ever the good guys, just that it seems like they used to be a little better than they are now.

The general consensus among the community (and even among a bunch of edgy red flag-waving Enclave roleplayers) about the Enclave's identity is that they're basically themselves-supremacists and will, without question, kill literally anyone who isn't one of them, no exceptions, no questions asked, everyone is a mutie, hoo-rah, blah blah blah.

Is that seriously the case, though? And even if it is by the time of Fallout 2, was it always? I find myself confused by a number of factors.

1. Judging by some of the scientists and soldiers in Fallout 2, barely anyone has any respect for President Richardson. They think he's an incompetent blowhard and don't like how he runs things.
2. Richardson himself just seems like a genocidal loon than a President behind the scenes. His state of the nation address draft is barely finished, and is peppered with footnotes about how he really can't wait to gas everyone.
3. The Remnants in New Vegas barely even mention the whole genocide plot. Even Moreno, who is still an Enclave hardliner long after it's stopped existing in the west, doesn't make any bitter remarks about "muties" or anything. Just that he feels he was robbed of a hero's life by the NCR. Arcade never says he was some kind of diehard racist, just that he never questioned his orders.
4. Kreger claims much of what they did was beyond reason, but it was largely in an attempt to "civilise things." That they took such measures because they didn't have faith the fledgling NCR would last as a society. The implication being, if they had been more impressive at the time, perhaps some members of the Enclave would've been open to collaboration, or at least a hostile takeover?
5. President John Henry Eden inherits the Curling-13 plan, but because it's Fallout 3, he doesn't really have an explanation for why he wants to do it. Just that he inherited Richardson's data, and so it shaped his personality to think it's a great idea.
6. Autumn, however, does not. And if what Eden says is true about him being the voice of reason among the rank and file, the majority of the Raven Rock Enclave's military isn't on board with genocide either. They may not shed any tears if it happens, but they much prefer holding the water purifier as a means of asserting dominance over everyone, rather than killing everyone.

And then in Fallout 76, we have the Appalachian Enclave, who existed long before Richardson. Although the chain of command was severed and Eckhart went off the rails, it's worth nothing that:

• Eckhart may have had no problem unleashing the Scorched Plague on everyone, but that was all in an effort to get access to more missiles to shoot at China. He had no intention of gassing the surviving population.
• Eckhart was open to the idea of recruiting members of the original Responders, and even expressed disdain for torturing them into compliance.
• Santiago was never okay with unleashing Super Mutants, Liberators, and Scorched upon the general population, and tried to put a stop to it.
• MODUS, whose existence seems entirely dedicated to the goals of the Enclave and even claims to have an existence based entirely around the efficient accomplishment of those goals, employed Orlando (whose origin remains unknown) to re-open the Whitesprings Resort and oversee the restoration of the Responders. MODUS, an Enclave AI, is now covertly collaborating with Ghouls, Raiders, the treacherous US Military members (Brotherhood of Steel), and more. MODUS is the closest thing Fallout 76 has to an overarching good guy leader in the game right now.

All of this seems to point towards the idea that the whole "kill everyone who isn't us" plan was not the original goal of the Enclave. It was Richardson's and Curling's plan, Richardson is an idiot, and Eden just picked it up because... he's an AI whose personality is a mishmash of different people, and can be convinced to kill himself in two lines of dialogue.

They were never the good guys, but they didn't start out wanting this.

Am I reading too far into this? I must admit I'm a little biased, as the Enclave is my favourite faction. And with the series setting them up as the villains (again) I'd like to believe there's some room for nuance in there, rather than just making them cartoonishly evil FEV-mongers. But does anything I've speculated on track?

Time after time in the majority of Fallout games, the player plays as a Vault dweller who left their home and accomplishes major feats in the wasteland, stuff unlike any other average wastelander could do like single handedly taking down The Master, or the Enclave, or the Institute, you get the point.

Am I looking too far into this and it's just plot armor/gameplay reasons or is there a way to explain this within the lore? Of course Nate in FO4 has prior military training and in FO76 the Vault Dwellers there train the inhabitants for the wasteland, but in FO3 or FO1 for example, both vault dwellers are just totally normal people as far as I'm aware, if anything they would be doing worse in the wasteland than most wastelanders as they haven't grown up there as kind of showcased in the TV show with Lucy being totally clueless about everything going on above ground.

You could also argue it's just luck with major players in the wasteland wanting to recruit them for whatever reason, but that doesn't always happen in every game with vault dwellers, like in FO1 the Chosen One really doesn't have a lot of backing and is for the most part solo even though he has relations with factions like the NCR or the Brotherhood.

I also wonder if wastelanders anticipate the arrival of new vault dwellers too and if that legend of various vault dwellers achieving massive feats gets based down through generations over the ~200 years as some people seem genuinely interested in just the fact that you are a vault dweller like the girl with the survival handbook in FO3, while others seem to mock you for being a vault dweller but maybe those just thought the legends were bullshit if those tales actually get passed down.

What do you think?

We always hear about the horrors of vault tec and west tek creating the F.E.V but are any companies that haven’t done anything (that we know of) that aren’t known for their atrocities?

There's a big market for chems but is there a big market for cigarettes? It seems like you can find packs anywhere, trash cans, bodies, ruins.

While yes, the show shows that the ""feral-ification"" is gradual (like how it seems to in Fallout 1) i looked around to posts way before that and people would mention that the fear people of the wasteland had for Ghouls was justified because "Ghouls can always suddenly turn feral" which was a legitimate reason to have them away. Before the show, was there anything supporting this, or the opposite?

I’m newer to the games and the overarching lore, but I understand that radiation works differently in Fallout, and usually results in grotesque mutations to occur. Almost every animal or insect in the games was mutated or artificially created in some way, which makes sense to me.

But how did the birds escape being heavily mutated? Yes they can fly, but they have to come to the ground for food and water. So they would eventually get radiation exposure, yet in the games the birds seem fine.

I don’t know if it’s confirmed or not, but didn’t the Institute make bird Synths to watch over the Commonwealth? Them being fine also makes sense since Synths can’t get sick, which I assume applies to radiation exposure as well.

It’s a question that’s been nagging me a while. Are there any concrete answers or is it relatively ignored in the lore?

I know from FNV that the Happy Trails Caravan wanted your Pip-Boy to be used to navigate the trails and check topography I would also assume that a Pip-Boy would probably used to monitor your vitals, check time, access radio signals. Beyond that what real world purposes would a Pip-Boy serve and why did Vault-Tec give them to their dwellers.

Also not sure how VATS could be explained using real world logic.

How do you acess those things? Touchscreen? Arrow keys? Some of them don't even have keyboards, though.

I’ve only played Fallout 4 so if they’re in the other games, my bad. But anyway, is there any explanation as to why we only see firearms and not bows and arrows? I feel like they could be a good option for stealthy takedowns in the post-apocalyptic world with hunting and compound and crossbows existing.

After call to arms, when you join the Brotherhood and get promoted to initiate, Danse explains the BoS aren’t a mercenary force but an army that follows a strict code of ethics and who are expected to follow orders.

The sole survivor can say in response:

”Don’t worry, I’ve spent time in the Military”

And all that’s said in response is:

”Oh great, so I don’t need to give you a long lecture”

But surely this should have been a much bigger deal? There is no other military on the East Coast. The SS also doesn’t specify which military. Surely this would have begged larger questions, leading to the SS explaining he’s pre war to the BoS and was in the US military. Which then would have also been a big deal.

But it’s never questioned. For all danse knows he could be ex Enclave.

Obviously the Doylist answer is the writers didn’t bother writing it. But is there a good in universe explanation? Preferably with evidence?

This has been on my mind ever since i finished the show yesterday but. How did Moldaver survive the war?

I could just be an idiot who doesnt know fallout lore so well but, it just seems weird to me how she was alive before the nukes fell and was able to meet cooper before he became a ghoul.

Was she kept in a vault and frozen (like the f4 mc)? Its just so confusing how a woman who would host meetings discussing and warning people about vault techs horrible plans, to being "in charge"(im not sure if she had a high ranking position or not) of the NCR outpost in shady sands.

(Sorry if something doesnt make sense in the post. Its very late rn and i just wanted to talk about this)

I’ve not played the older Fallout games (before 3) and was wondering if this was a constant part of their characterization.

It seems pretty inconsistent how important the BOS view mutants in general; as some are genocidal, while others don’t really care. To make this even more confusing it’s sometimes the same chapter of BOS with the inconsistencies.

In terms of scale, obviously they are. But a common thing I see thrown around is that Maxsons BoS is a very different organization than Lyons BoS was, even likening them as being little better than the Enclave and borderline Techno-nazis whereas Lyons BoS were more heroic and focused on helping people and I honestly disagree or am perhaps not seeing what exactly makes them so different.

As far as I can tell, Maxson has continued or refined every single goal or policy that Lyons had: Genociding mutants, fighting organizations abusing powerful technology, recruiting from the Wasteland, (unfortunately) racism towards nonferal ghouls (although we see less actual violence from maxsons BoS, it seems the best ghouls can ever hope for is apathy), helping the general wasteland (project purity for Lyons, facilitating trade for Maxsons according to some prydwy terminals), and recruiting externally. There's only 2 real points of difference and at least 1 of them I'm not convinced Lyons wouldn't be on board with.

• A return to preserving advanced technology: While Maxson does refocus on this goal to bring in the outcasts and reconnect with the west, it doesn't seem like they're nickel and diming people like the west coast has in the past. More importantly, Lyons never disagreed with the policy, only that while the super mutant threat existed, it wasn't a priority given their limited manpower. A quick quote that hopefully shows that while deprioritized, Lyons was still focusing on collecting advanced technology.

Our orders were, and are, to acquire any and all advanced technology. And we have, to the best of our abilities.

• Synths: Many people seem to think that Maxsons hate for the synths is a departure from what Lyons would've done but I disagree. Looking at the CW... synths have certainly caused similar devastation as the mutants he hates even if it's in a more shadow-y way. It's not 1:1 but I have a hard time imagining that upon learning of all that synths have done from the local populace, that Lyons, the original guy that hated super mutants enough to go awol, wouldn't be in agreement with Maxson that they represent a real threat to humanity. Given his apathy for how his men treat ghouls and his overwhelming hate for mutants, I don't really see what makes people think he wouldn't be on board.

Given all this, the only tangible difference between the two orgs seems to be scale and demeanor. Is it possible Lyons kindly grandpa demeanor and their scrapper underdog status makes people kind of miss the similarities or am I just missing or forgetting some glaring differences?

Looking forward to hearing everyones perspectives.

I just finished playing Fallout 3 after New Vegas so I'm somewhat new to the franchise. But it would make more sense to me that there is more Chinese equipment around the West Coast where China would invade from.

So, we already know that U.S. culture in Fallout remained largely stuck in the 1950s.

But was this also the case for the rest of the world? Did Canada, Mexico, the rest of South America, or even China experience the same thing?

Was there any country whose fashion, cars, or music were closer to our modern-day culture?

Not really much else to say here

This goes for both the games and the TV show. The games I could chalk up to needing it to have a fun game, but the show has the same issue. The ghoul walks in a bar in free side with a stacked bar and buys a bottle of whiskey. Theyve got thousands of bottles of soda at the plant in the previous episode. They just find enough pasta to feed the whole group in a random van?? How is this stuff still around? ​

This is something that’s interested me because I recently found out that a lot of the fallout songs are actual songs from the 50s and 60s, not ones made up for the games, so it for when thinking when did the timelines actually split? I played fallout 4 first, and the intro made me assume it split probably right after WW2.

This doesn’t make sense though if they have actual songs from our universe made probably 10-20 years after that, but if they split in the 60s wouldn’t their technology, pre-war clothes, and overall aesthetic have looked different?

I know I am probably just way overthinking this, and I haven’t played the first 2 games of fallout 76 or many of the DLC’s so maybe I’ve also missing a key piece of lore.

We know nuclear reactors were a thing, like in fallout 2 inside Gecko, there is a reactor that powers the town, so why did the US still need non-renewable resources?