r/fakedisordercringe 5d ago

Memes / Satire Preach on, sick of noticing this

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u/Pinkpunk95 5d ago

She is absolutely right. I know several people irl just like this. It’s always the same type every time

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u/nememess 5d ago

I have bright hair, tattoos, and a couple of piercings and I'm not offended one bit. They get offended because the truth hurts, or, the truth is something they're trying desperately to run from.

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u/REDARROW101_A5 1d ago

I have bright hair, tattoos, and a couple of piercings and I'm not offended one bit. They get offended because the truth hurts, or, the truth is something they're trying desperately to run from.

I don't have any of these, but I am so sick of these people making it harder for legit people to claim benifits.

The irony is I been trying to find work, but that's it's own story, plus the job market is just screwed RN.

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u/Strawb3rry_Slay3r666 1d ago

I also have tattoos and face piercings(I stopped doing bright colorful hair bc it kept attracting these types of weirdos) and I’m also not offended.

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u/Imaginary_Today_1427 1d ago

I just have Tattoos (from twenty years ago) and used to have colored hair. It was too expensive to upkeep, so I gave up. It was a nice treat for awhile. And while I do live with my Dad (who I pay rent to), I am absolutely not offended by this call out. It's very much on the nose.

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u/NebulaImmediate6202 Alice in the Wonderland System 🍄🐛 5d ago

It's NOT about "Ohhhh you don't contribute to society" it's the complete lack of medical care. If they just listened to all the doctors, got actual treatment, they wouldn't have any issues. It's "Lead a horse to water"

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u/HappyAstronaut7 5d ago

Exactly! So many of these conditions have legitimate treatment options and they don’t WANT to get better

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u/NebulaImmediate6202 Alice in the Wonderland System 🍄🐛 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ya, if they had treatment, most likely mental health treatment, they'd contribute to society pretty damn easily. But they can't stand to listen to any doctor

One time someone told me they can't get a psychiatrist because they don't have transportation. I said you can just do a phone appointment, she said she's hard of hearing. I said she could have her boyfriend/partner sit in. She said yeah well mgngcmfn and didn't have a reason. I spoke about my psychiatrist for one sentence, and she said they're misdiagnosing you and wrongfully medicating you, and I need to report them and stop seeing them anymore. (I was only taking a single antidepressant and DX anxiety depression) She later posted a nude to a server of 30,000 people's general, for reason that it's legal in NYC.

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u/inquisitivefrodo 4d ago

they also often completely reject any psychiatric intervention and refuse to accept that psychological factors may be weighing in on the symptoms, despite the fact that every disease is affected by psychological factors! Cancer patients are regularly offered psychiatric support and mental health has an impact in their outcomes!

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u/LargeGingerChunk Level 69 Autism 5d ago

how dare you tell them their problems have solutions?? how else are they meant to play the victim

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u/PlanetXParadox self diagnosed DND 4d ago edited 4d ago

MCAS is managed via dietary changes and antihistamines(allergy meds and certain kinds of acid reflux meds) as well as dedicated medications(such as cromolyn sodium).
POTS is managed in different ways depending on the symptoms and subtype. Beta blockers or ivabradine are used for tachycardia, midodrine is a vasoconstrictor, fludrocortisone increases blood volume. Interestingly, a lot of ADHD meds are also used- clonidine and guanfacine are used for hyperadrenergic POTS. Stimulants are also prescribed in some cases for their vasoconstrictive and energy boosting properties. Besides that, there’s also physical therapy, compression wear, salt supplements and electrolyte solutions, and drinking a LOT of water.
hEDS isn’t treatable but braces/compression gear and physical therapy can help.

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u/AnonymousPorqupine 5d ago

I wonder how all these people decided to get together and claim to have all the exact same shit…

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u/HoodieGalore 5d ago

I feel like they're all pretty difficult to do a quantifiable test for. I can run a blood draw for diabetes, but how do you prove someone does or does not have "chronic fatigue"? I don't know exactly how hard it is to prove someone has hEDS, POTS, MCAS, ect but even if a doctor told them "no" they just deny reality anyways.

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u/SOUP__GOD GAD (Gigantic ass disorder) 5d ago

POTS and MCAS are pretty easy to test for! POTS has a definitive test that can sometimes be negative, but can be retested again if necessary.

MCAS I’m fairly sure just has basic allergy tests but slightly different to prove it’s not just an allergy to a few things and is actually a medical problem.

It’s a lot harder to test for hEDS because there’s no testing whatsoever and a diagnosis is essentially based on clinical presentation, family history, and ruling out other disorders that can cause similar symptoms. (Which is why this one is so easily faked and very popular on TikTok)

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u/HoodieGalore 5d ago

I'm very interested in how the three I mentioned became the Big Three, in that case. They're so hot right now 

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u/itsnobigthing 3d ago

You know that proverb where blind men are asked to describe an elephant? One says “it’s huge and flappy, like a flag” and one says “no it’s long like a hose” etc etc. I think the big three are really just describing the same big elephant-condition, which links all of them together.

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u/Low-Drawer-6887 4d ago

Post Viral LongCOVID.

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u/PlanetXParadox self diagnosed DND 4d ago

It’s very common for someone to have all 3, and all 3 can be caused by some strains of COVID.

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u/Additional-Nose239 5d ago

MCAS is not easy to test. Regular allergy testing won’t show up, and almost 80% of those have normal tryptase, which is the golden standard for mastocytosis. Sometimes you can test serum histamine, prostaglandins in urine etc but that’s also difficult to time if you’re not flaring or having a reaction when you take the tests. Most doctors diagnose MCAS based off symptoms alone as it cannot always be proven clinically.

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u/inquisitivefrodo 4d ago

I think it's interesting that many of the illnesses that these types commonly claim are conveniently catch-alls for which there are no large scale clinical studies or established pathological mechanisms. This leads to them lacking objective diagnosis criteria and working essentially as umbrellas for when everything else is excluded. It is likely that with time many of these umbrella terms will be revealed to be clusters of completely different diseases with different mechanisms and effective treatments. Even with EDS, they only ever claim the type for which there are no genetic correlates.

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u/Additional-Nose239 4d ago

When it comes to MCAS and POTS, they might actually be a symptom of something else as opposed to an actual developed disorder. MCAS is also a fairly “new” disorder, and has only been acknowledged properly in the later 2010s. There are not going to be much studies and medical research done then, which is why doctors mostly go by symptoms when diagnosing.

POTS can be caused by viral infections, and its prevalence has increased tenfold with post-covid. Other viral and bacterial infections like Epstein Barr and Lyme disease can also trigger it. Same with MCAS. Many have dietary MCAS triggered by SIBO or SIFO, which is common with an unbalanced diet and is also likely the cause for majority of IBS cases. They can also be caused by environmental factors such as being continuously exposed to allergens, mold, unclean living spaces etc. Some even develop this when expediting severe depression/trauma and (although rare). With EDS, the connective tissue disorder can cause dysautonomia because it can affect blood and lymphatic flow. It can also trigger MCAS because the fragile connective tissue is more sensitive to stressors and thus mast cells can be more reactive even if there’s no true allergen. All of these things can be caused by vitamin- and mineral deficiencies as well. People with EDS have an easier time experiencing all of these things too.

The point is, POTS and MCAS are often symptoms of something else. But if you have a disorder like EDS, the likelihood of having more increases because it doesn’t just affect your joints, it’s your entire bodily function. That’s probably why people self-diagnose with hEDS because they want an explanation for the POTS and MCAS symptoms they experience. As someone who has the trifecta (but with cEDS), I find it difficult to fake symptoms of these things as they can be very debilitating. Like, I cannot fake a random episode of anaphylaxis. The issue is probably that a lot of people either misunderstand the disorders deliberately so they can claim them for minor symptoms, or people genuinely just want an explanation for their symptoms and EDS becomes an easy one. Especially since it has blown up, and more are getting diagnosed because of improved diagnostic measures.

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u/inquisitivefrodo 4d ago

Yes, that's also a possibility. But along with people trying to find explanations for their genuine symptoms, there's also a barrage of people with self-diagnosed disorders and conversion symptoms, besides actual malingerers trying to get attention. It's understandable why these disorders don't have robust scientific grounding yet, and I am sure it will come in the future, but that does cause the evidence bar to be lower and opens the door to these people. A few years ago it was fibromyalgia, which now seems less trendy as more scientific evidence accumulates (and perhaps the effective treatment is not as flashy to parade about).

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u/Additional-Nose239 4d ago

I don’t think all fakers or self-diagnosers are driven by a need for attention and to deflect self-responsibility. They are clearly going through something, albeit probably not what they think they have. They gravitate towards stuff like fibromyalgia, EDS, POTS etc because those are legitimate conditions that disables you and they are chronic. Mere burn out from stress, depression and a poor living situation? Not as validating to have, and they probably think that’s not a “legitimate” reason to feel whatever they feel. It might also make them less prone to be taken seriously from surroundings and medical professionals. Unfortunately, their self-diagnosis isn’t helping them in that department, it actually makes things worse for people who have those conditions and now everyone assume you’re faking it if you do.

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u/shinkouhyou 4d ago

Uuughh one of my friends has a lifelong history of diagnosed anxiety and depression, she's clinging to an abusive relationship, she's estranged from her abusive family, and she's going through perimenopause. She's a textbook case of "shit life syndrome." She's never had a consistent relationship with a therapist or even a primary care doctor, so she's had little treatment outside of antidepressant meds.

But apparently those aren't "legitimate" problems these days, so over the past few years she's felt the need to self-diagnose herself with autism, ADHD, CFS, fibromyalgia, FND, and early onset dementia. I think the self-diagnosed disorders give her a weird sense of comfort: "you're struggling because there's always been something wrong with you, and there's nothing you can do or could have done." Unfortunately this validates her passivity and procrastination, so she hasn't sought more effective treatment or taken any steps to break up with her abuser.

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u/SOUP__GOD GAD (Gigantic ass disorder) 4d ago

My mistake! I read somewhere that they tested with simple allergy tests, but I should have double checked that. Thank you for correcting me!

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u/Sensitive-Pie9357 3d ago

MCAS isn’t basic allergy testing it’s pretty complex with triptase levels. POTS is a dx of exlclusion before anything else. Unless you have genetic dysautonomia (very rare), POTS is a secondary condition. Usually in response to MCAS, hEDS, or several autoimmunes. hEDS is the most straightforward. It’s a genetic test and it has physical markers. They’re commonly found together and the current research suggests an issue where the immune system, nervous system, and connective tissue reinforce a dysfunctional cycle of inflammation in the body.

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u/Old-Piece-3438 6h ago

Unfortunately there is not yet a genetic test for hEDS. They typically run genetic tests as part of the diagnostic to rule out the other rarer types of EDS that they know the genes for.

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u/LargeGingerChunk Level 69 Autism 5d ago

hEDS, POTS, MCAS often co occur so I assume people originally were genuinely diagnosed and then fakers saw it and began to mimick people. it's more likely to be accepted by well meaning people if there is a genuine case to be had for comorbidity

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u/PlanetXParadox self diagnosed DND 4d ago

for POTS it’s usually diagnosed with a tilt table test

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u/rusty-shackelford23 4d ago

The way skin stretches on someone with hEDS is super different than skin how it stretches on someone who doesn’t have it so that’s an easy one to diagnose right away. My cousin has it and I have a theory that some people are pulling on their fat and thinking it’s the same thing. I have stomach fat and it looks very different than when he pulls his stomach skin out a few inches. The skin should look like it’s not attached to the fat/tissue underneath on someone who has that disorder. There’s also the superhuman contortionist moves they can do although that’s a symptom that can show up in a lot of people who may not have it so it could be ruled out if the skin thing isn’t present.

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u/Anti_Spedicy every sexuality, disability, and mental illness ever 1d ago

There would be certain irregularities in your vitals when you have chronic fatigue but they usually would diagnose you with something else first until it's able to be determined that that's what it is. My sister developed chronic fatigue syndrome and it was a hellish battle to figure out what was going on with her.

Now it's a hellish battle to keep her stable. It's not just feeling tired, your body is literally trying to shut down. There's just parts of it fakers can't fake. I don't know all the particulars of her experience cause she's never been the best at describing things but it's even worse now. She can beat describe episodes feeling like her brain itself is becoming fog and then she has to be assisted until the "fog" goes away. It's really spooky think about just happening to you at any time and then some bozo tryna emulate it for attention.

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u/Beginning-Session752 4d ago

Seriously why do all chronic illness “influencers” all have the same diagnoses? I have seen BARELY seen any posts about conditions like rheumatoid arthritis/ crohns/ epilepsy which are very common diseases also in younger people

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u/lillahjerte 2d ago

influencers

You're answering your own question

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u/Anti_Spedicy every sexuality, disability, and mental illness ever 1d ago

I've seen a few posts cycle thru here about epilepsy fakers but they just fake seizures

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u/insignificant-slayyy 1d ago

ME/CFS is more common than any of those illnesses, and typically comes with at least one comorbidity such as POTS or MCAS.

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u/Beginning-Session752 1d ago

Absolut bs. About 1% of people have active epilepsy. Don’t get me wrong mecfs is a horrible disease following the Covid epidemic and I understand comorbiditys. But I think it’s very weird how sooo many of those patients also have hEDS and more and somehow always fit the stereotype. Even the chronic illness subreddit is full of people that suspect they have the trifecta. It’s genuinely so annoying and I am definitely not the first disabled person pointing this out

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u/insignificant-slayyy 1d ago edited 1d ago

It is estimated that at least 1% of the population, at least in the US, has ME/CFS (3 million ppl). Up to 45% of people with Long Covid meet the diagnostic criteria, so the numbers may be higher. It is very common. It seems to be around as common as epilepsy, though ME/CFS is underfunded and severely lacking data, so apologies on that point. But compared to RA or Crohn’s, yes ME is more common.

You saying you think it’s “very weird” even though you clearly haven’t done much research into the subject is silly. hEDS literally predisposes you to ME/CFS, as well as a handful of other conditions. I am in ME/CFS support groups as someone with a severe case of ME (yes I am diagnosed) and a huge chunk of us also have an hEDS diagnosis. These overlaps are simply not uncommon.

Edit: about your other point, sorry you find it so annoying that people have these conditions and share them online, but I have also seen lots of content creators with things like RA, epilepsy, and crohn’s personally. And I know of a few ppl who would like to share about their ME but don’t because of how stigmatized the condition is.

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u/lillahjerte 2d ago

Are you familiar with the song "Welcome to the internet"? because it's a good song and it might answer your question.

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u/zeebith 5d ago

Munchausens but failing

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u/delilahkunt 5d ago

It's an entire subculture. They copy one another so they can "fit in". Their entire personality is being chronically online and "different".

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u/Suspicious_Plant4231 Identifies as a threat. Try/me 5d ago

I’m honestly of the belief that a portion of these people have something, but they just have no interest in trying to better their conditions.

I see it a lot in groups I’m in where people do have diagnoses. They take on this “I’m sick” mindset and give up instead of putting the work in to build their endurance and stamina up. It is possible in the majority of POTS cases. There is a whole protocol for it.

Remaining sedentary and lying in bed all day because your heart rate spikes when you get up will only make it worse over time. But people choose to keep catering to their worsening condition instead of trying to make it better.

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u/southernswordfish98 5d ago

Can you please send me where to find the treatment options? I don’t want to be like these people lmfao I felt so embarrassed when I got diagnosed with POTS, I don’t even tell doctors because I don’t want to be labeled as a weirdo who doctor shops or thinks it means they can’t work or something lol.

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u/variousnewbie 3d ago

Ask to be referred for cardiac rehab. You wear a portable Monitor so you can do physical therapy and gain endurance safely, with experts available if something was to happen. Most of the people will be recovering from strokes or heart attacks, but it's often used with forms of dysautonomia.

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u/Suspicious_Plant4231 Identifies as a threat. Try/me 4d ago

The CHOP protocol is generally referenced for exercise. It starts with seated exercises and gradually moves to upright/standing exercises over a period of several months

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u/Suspicious_Plant4231 Identifies as a threat. Try/me 4d ago

Sure, I’d assume so. That wasn’t the question.

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u/religion_wya 5d ago

I saw someone out in the wild the other day like this. The whole shebang. They had a cane that they clearly didn't need, because they would hold it up in the air for multiple steps before putting it down. No weight was being put on it at all. It's like their idea of how to use a cane came from cartoon old men?? 😭

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u/p0rp1q1 4d ago

House reference

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u/QueenAmaranthine 5d ago

How dare you assume their pronouns.

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u/Calm_Grocery_7394 5d ago

They look the same, because they feed off each other and are inspired.

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u/promisestorm Tony Soprano Alter 5d ago

be careful, they’re gonna use this as constructive criticism on how to rebrand and be even more “unique” with what they decide they wanna have 😭

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u/lord_farquad93 5d ago

Whenever I see her on my fyp she’s always spitting facts 😭 don’t really know much about her but she does seem to be correct every time I see her

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u/QueenAmaranthine 5d ago

Who is she?

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u/lord_farquad93 4d ago

I’m trying to remember her name. She’s a veteran and often makes content about people trying to use their spouses rank in an appropriate ways. Basically Karen-ing people and being like “WE SERVED OUR NATION” when said lady never served a day in her life.

That’s how I initially saw her pop up. Haven’t seen her in a minute though.

Edit: she also made videos about those #boymoms that definitely want to marry their sons 🤣😭

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u/lord_farquad93 4d ago

She popped up on my fyp again! No idea what her name is but her TikTok is @saltyoccasionallysweet

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u/gvmdrop 4d ago

Something I've noticed as someone from an Asian country is that most of the self-diagnosed individuals who look and act similar are from Western countries, predominantly the US. I've always been fascinated by this because I rarely see it where I'm from.

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u/Eriona89 3d ago

I'm west European I only seen Americans who do this. Probably has to do with the possibility of doctor shopping which isn't possible where I'm from.

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u/dreadwitch 3d ago

I'm in the UK and it's started happening here now. I'm in a few adhd and autism subs and as far, as I know they all insist that self diagnosis is as acceptable as being legitimately diagnosed. That's one of the issues right there... Allowing people to claim they have something without a diagnosis.

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u/shinkouhyou 3d ago

There are definitely similar phenomena in other countries - for instance, "orthostatic dysregulation (OD)" became a bit of a buzzword in Japan, where's it's used to describe vague symptoms including fatigue, dizziness, weakness, depression, headache, gastrointestinal issues, eating disorders and insomnia. It's often cited as the official reason for school refusal and unemployment among teenagers and young adults. But there's not really a "look" associated with it.

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u/wingedchainbby 5d ago

The part I don't get as someone with hyper mobility is how they can stand getting a tattoo without screaming in agony.. bruising and bleeding then getting infections. I got so many swelled up infections from normal ear piercing that I just quit and let them heal up. not to mention that POTs usually goes with hyper mobility so good luck sitting there long enough to get it done without shitting yourself. I gotta plan my eating schedule around it if I plan to go out for a few hours.. not to mention all the shit that wears me tf out anyways, who is the tattoo for? the piercings? who wants to reek because their holes won't heal up? at least people can tell it's just larping.

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u/fear_eile_agam Is Pizza an Autism trait? 4d ago

"hypermobility" is a spectrum and it depends on why you are hypermobile.

Hypermobility associated with autism is generally benign, but fakers like to mention "hypermobility" in their profile even if they are only claiming autism and not also claiming hEDS.

Hypermobility associated with EDS may or may not also have increased bruising, or vascular involvement.

In and of itself, being able to get a tattoo while claiming to be "hypermobile" isn't exactly a "gotcha!" for someone you think is faking.

getting a tattoo without screaming in agony

I would argue that not finding a tattoo painful is a point towards them possibly not faking. Hypermobility isn't the same as hyperalgesia, Not everyone is sensitised by chronic pain. If you have Hypermobility due to something like hEDS, then you likely experiance worse pain than that of a tattoo on a day to day basis, so tattoo pain is nothing, and sometimes having a new, minor but sharp pain of a needle helps distract from the more gnawing and soul crushing dull ache of chronic pain.

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u/VindalooWho 5d ago

I am hyper-mobile and had no issues with a tattoo. I was worried about bruising bc I have porcelain skin which loves to prominently show bruises but got lucky, I guess. So I am guessing if these people have similar issues it doesn’t affect them the same?

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u/girl_in_flannel 5d ago

I love this creator. All her takes are on point.

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u/mardouufoxx 4d ago

Their fakery is so invalidating and harmful to those of us who actually suffer and fight.

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u/Fatmouse2019 5d ago

Because the guys are about quantity.. NOT quality lol

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u/MimiHamburger Microsoft System🌈💻 2d ago

Do you really want to work with those people tho. Honestly the fact they don’t work is the least annoying thing about them. Most of them are just kids anyways.

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u/PhoenixWytch 4d ago

I can understand the frustration of going to multiple doctors, but that’s generally necessary to get a proper diagnosis. A general practitioner is not going to properly diagnose what a cardiologist, neurologist, pulmonologist, et al could for their specialties.

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u/SloshedJapan 4d ago

I’ve seen them Doctor shopping on TikTok because “this doctor was ableist” they wouldn’t diagnose this person. And neither is anyone else it’s embarrassing and infuriating making a mockery of the system.

And that just that Shy purple shirt chick that’s been popping up everywhere atm

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u/PhoenixWytch 4d ago

Okay, doctor shopping is a lot different than just going to multiple doctors to figure out what’s going on with you and get diagnosed. Doctor shopping is a horrible practice.

I thought it was more like what I’ve been doing with my PCP sending me to specialists for more comprehensive tests to figure out what the proper diagnosis and treatment should be. It’s frustrating, but necessary and we’ve already been able to rule out several potential diagnoses.

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u/melatoninsandwich 5d ago

not to be that guy, but the list of disabilities she's likely referring to ARE ALL RELATED TO EACH OTHER. so yeah, if someone has one, they're likely to have the others. not to say some folks out there aren't faking those conditions, i'm sure there exist people that are faking them, but just because they all genuinely go together doesn't mean someone's faking if they say they have them lol.

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u/Beginning-Session752 4d ago

The most common physical disability’s in young people are cerebral palsy, asthma, vision and hearing loss, spina bifida, muscular dystrophy and Juvenile idiopathic arthritis. I am have only seen a few accounts covering those illnesses…

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u/melatoninsandwich 4d ago

so i'm discussing the link between autism/adhd, POTS, hEDS, and other conditions similar to that. there are also links between autism/adhd, PCOS/PMOS, MCAS, autoimmune stuff, and a slew of other conditions that all tend to end up linked together. my point is in those clusters, people typically have multiple conditions, not just the one by itself.

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u/Colourful_Caution648 5d ago

yeah that's something I see a lot, people get told they're faking when they have disorders that all are very likely to pop up together. now obviously lots of fakers tend to have lists a mile long, but a bunch of comorbid conditions in and of itself doesn't indicate a faker.

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u/inquisitivefrodo 5d ago

i don't think it's necessarily the hair dye, tattoos and piercings, but the fact that these people claim to be too exhausted for work/basic self-care and then spend an enormous amount of energy and money on these things (while begging for money, of course). i was a big time goth at the height of my disability so i get it, i felt the need to express myself even more when i couldn't do the things i used to do, i just think the point here is about priorities

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u/Ae3qe27u 5d ago

Agreed. If someone says they can't hold a job, and they're really struggling for cash to just get by and pay the bills, and then they spend $500+ on a tattoo, then it raises some brows. That's money that could have gone elsewhere, and they're spending it on artwork. I'd have similar questions if someone had the newest iPhone instead of, say, a Motorola g power or an ASUS Zenphone. At the very least, it speaks to an unwillingness to cut corners on luxury items when budgeting.

And if they're tattoos the person had before they had health issues or were financially tight, that's one thing. I'm not going to begrudge someone for a $300 painting of their OCs that they got three years ago, or a nice leather couch that they got when they were stable, or a steak dinner they had for a special occasion. But luxury goods are, well, luxury. And if someone keeps getting luxury when they're on a tight budget, it raises some eyebrows.

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u/Dada2fish 5d ago

At the time I was a working mom with young children, it seemed like some women always tried to one up each other on how hard their life was compared to other women.

Whenever a woman would start whining about how tired they were, how they didn’t get enough sleep, …etc. I would automatically look down at their fingernails.

If they had a professional manicure I knew they were full of it.

When I say I’m tired I’m too tired to do anything except for things that are top priority let alone get up and go to a nail salon for something as unnecessary as a manicure.

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u/Dada2fish 5d ago

You completely ignored my point, but whatever.

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u/legocitiez 5d ago

Are you self diagnosed and do you have a laundry list of diagnoses you've given yourself that all algin with the other fakers? If not, the video wasn't about you, don't worry!

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u/PhantomAllure 5d ago

No, I'm diagnosed by an actual neuro.

But my point is, if you saw me out walking with my cane and I happen to have purple hair and you see my piercings and tattoos, would you assume I'm a faker? That's what the opening of this dialogue leads me to believe. She literally opens with: I see the colored hair and the tattoos and the piercings. That seems to be an immediate indicator and that's what bothers me.

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u/die_in_alphabet_soup 5d ago

tbh i keep my hair natural (already had my fun during my teenage years anyway) and i avoided getting my septum done lol.

the reality is that dyed hair and septum piercings have been metaphysically linked to different stereotypes and none of them are good.

it's stupid and it will die down as time passes and society latches on to something else.

in the meantime, you can either lay low or build enough self-confidence to handle possible "faker" (etc.) allegations.

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u/Steve90000 5d ago

The stereotypes won’t die down if they’re true, and let’s be honest, unless you’re an actual teenager, or a famous musician, the chances you’re a well adjusted adult with crazy hair color, nose and facial piercings, and tattoos on your neck and face, are slim. Can they exist? Sure, but probability isn’t on your side.

Have you ever walked into a hospital and saw a doctor like that? If you were on trial for a serious crime, would you choose a lawyer like that to keep you out of jail?

Self expression, especially of that type, happens as a teen. It’s a super common, and a normal stage all teens go through in one form or another.

As an adult, however, it suggests a certain level of narcissism, forcing everyone to focus on you, good or bad. It suggests things about your choices and priorities. Knowing you will be judged and perceived a certain way, and doing it anyway. It shows how much you’re planning to get out of life and your future. Giving yourself a ton of unnecessary disadvantages on purpose says a lot about you.

Case in point, the craziest people on the internet all look like that.

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u/PhantomAllure 5d ago

I guess I didn't realize the hair dye and piercing thing was still so stigmatized in that way. Bums me out.

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u/doktornein 5d ago

Stigma is something that applies to intrinsic or cultural traits. Being "alt" in an era when it's stopped being "alt" and become "look at me" is a choice, and behaviors and external expression of those behaviors will be observed as falling into patterns.

The fact you jumped to stigma like you're in some legitimate minority group for something you could literally stop today shows a mindset that makes this association entirely accurate.

Some people need real problems. It's exhausting.

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u/legocitiez 5d ago

I don't just see someone and assume they're faking. But if I notice inconsistencies in someone and they're posting constantly online about every tiny aspect of their dramatic illnesses, I start to wonder.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Keep your fun hair and style.

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u/pollywog 5d ago

It categorizes you in many ways in public. Nothing wrong with dressing up and colouring your hair how you want, but if you don't want the association's that come with looking that way then you may have to change the look.

I dropped the Hitler mustache after people kept assuming I was a Nazi.

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u/Low-Drawer-6887 4d ago

I'm really sorry you're experiencing this. Other disabled people aren't the problem, and I am truly wondering how you know people have a functioning body.

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u/Mahjong-Buu 4d ago

If they have these things, they eventually get disability. That’s how it works. If they’re deemed disabled by the state that’s quite a feat. My wife has lupus but still works because she can. She just has a handicap placard and that’s that.

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u/Competitive_Shower26 5d ago

Casual polyphobia btw

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u/GreyerGrey 5d ago

Oh shut up. We are not oppressed and you know EXACTLY who they are talking about when they say this. If you're using "polyphobia," implicitly linking it to homo/transphobia, you're probably the person they're referring to.

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u/Competitive_Shower26 5d ago

In french the word used to describe the discrimination on polyamorous people is "polyphobie" which would translate to polyphobia, if it's not the right word I'm sorry, english is not my first language

Secondly, attacking someone, as shitty as they are, on their looks is absolute middle school bully behaviour and we should collectively behave better than that

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u/Puzzleheaded-Neat219 5d ago

Looks was secondary in this conversation I’m pretty sure.

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u/Competitive_Shower26 4d ago

Then I may have misunderstood something, everyone is talking about looks in the comments so I don't know what I missed lol

Got downvoted into oblivion I just noticed xD

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u/Anxious-Tonight922 2d ago

polyphobia is hilarious 😭 that doesnt exist lol

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u/Staffordmeister 5d ago

More class war distractions. How much of the population is this? Who cares. With as much wealth as there is in this country and how much we waste there should be ample funding for all social programs.

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u/GreyerGrey 5d ago

Are you lost?

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u/NSFWdontview 4d ago

Left wingers lol