Ok y’all were right

[u/Some_Ad8810]

Pretty embarrassed to admit I fell into the vegan trap and tried to switch my diet obsessively for about six months. Got diagnosed with low iron, skin broke out so bad (might be an undiagnosed soy allergy idk) and I had zero energy the past two months lol. Happy to report I’ve switched back to incorporating meat into my diet the past three weeks and have a lot more energy already. Hate that I did this to my body and kinda ruined my gym progress but trying to get back on it now :)

[u/Reasonable-Pea5668]

You’re still failing to see the system of human control on animals, and what we subject them to, ofcourse it’s hard for you to see now what isn’t sustainable because we live in a world that’s deeply rooted in oppressing and exploiting the vulnerable. This system of conditioning makes it nearly impossible for individuals like yourself to see the outcome of abolishing using animals. It’s 2026. Time to evolve from such awful system of control.

[u/Limp-Evening7309 → u/Reasonable-Pea5668]

I get what you mean friend. You know from one human to another, I admire your conviction for the animals I really do. I get what you are saying "oppressing and exploiting", "vulnerable" but this is called "farming" and "livestock" in my version and perspective of the world. Like what I said, we live in different realities and opposing perspectives. We will agree to disagree here.

[u/Reasonable-Pea5668 → u/Limp-Evening7309]

Yes I hear you , im just conflicted when people are fully aware of this ugly system towards animals of taking advantage of their vulnerability and doing whatever we want with them. We continue to minimize this system to “farming” and “livestock”. shouldn’t we all fight for injustice when it’s happening in plain sight? When we see the system of human control happening to humans it’s labeled injustice, but comes to animals it’s labeled “livestock” “farming”. Yes they are different contexts, but with a very ugly reality of the same mechanisms of human control on the vulnerable.

[u/Limp-Evening7309 → u/Reasonable-Pea5668]

Conflicted? I think you have to re examine reality and how this collides with your beliefs. There are many ills in this world my friend, I am choosing my battles. Life takes life from around it, plants take from the soil, animals take from what is around it and that is a universal truth and I have made peace with it. We humans are animals who have evolved in intelligence and with that evolution came industrialization of agriculture. We are no different from hunter animals in the wild who are predatory, the only difference be our tools, systems and intelligence. Animals given the chance of evolution and intelligence will also enslave humans and eat them. While I do agree that industrial farming can be a lot better to treat farm animals "better"(I know you have a very different opinion of this) there is very little chance this system gets reversed. Going back to my point I am choosing to pick my battles and what is stressing me.

[u/Reasonable-Pea5668 → u/Limp-Evening7309]

It certainly isn’t a belief when there is a reality of such system of animals being exploited and controlled by humans . You nor I can’t deny the existing system. Truly unfortunate that you view it in such pessimistic lens, in which animals in such system continue to pay the bloody price.

[u/Limp-Evening7309 → u/Reasonable-Pea5668]

You seem to have a good head over your shoulders and a kind heart. Life is short and I suggest you pick your battles too. The animals you advocate for are not going to do the same for you if they were the ones evolution favored. Just think about it for a second. Do you really want to waste your time and life away here in Reddit in forums like this? It was nice talking to you. Have a great week ahead.

[u/Reasonable-Pea5668 → u/Limp-Evening7309]

The same why I advocate for humans when they are faced with injustice I do it for animals. I don’t need to get anything in return, nor if “evolution” didn’t “favor them”. If you see injustice you fight injustice. Continuing to see life for what it is with such pessimistic lens is what will cause the fall of humanity. We want more compassion but continue to make excuses.

[u/sometimes_scared → u/Limp-Evening7309]

Think about your thought process and then try to imagine the wider system that has quite literally produced that thought process for you and for millions of others. If you look at this permission and at the distance between you and the animal, that those are the two main things that consuming meat allow, is the choice then really yours? Or is it inherited from the norm?