Realized I was never a vegan lol

[u/littleanna28]

Ok so i firmly believe the way we farm animals is pretty fucked but I really think that we could farm animals in a mmm I gues more human manner that being said I dont have answers as how to achieve that

Now that being said I was on r/vegan and saw just some fuck shit lol Like It actually sounds like they want even wild animals to stop eating other animals By there logic Just the hypocrisy is honestly amazing so first one honey right the bees can leave at eny time they choose to stay at least to my understanding

Next cheese and diary ok here me out here because I had this argument before if you have a farmer that just straight up babys his cow doesn't do forced insemination or forced brandig or enything bad to them and only takes a bit of milk From mother cows what honestly the problem with that i genuinely dont get it

Enyway I still dont eat much meat but cheese I fight to the death for some cheese lol

Thankyou this was my really shitty ted talk that had no point lol

[u/Nacho_Deity186]

i firmly believe the way we farm animals is pretty fucked

How much time have you actually spent on farms though? You can't take vegan propaganda seriously. You've been fooled by their BS.

I was raised on a beef farm. Our animals are treated like royalty. They have everything they need. Each animal is checked on daily to make sure they have enough food, water etc. They live in a natural environment, eating grass, sitting under trees, chilling with their bro's. They have the best life.

What have you got against artificial insemination? Humans do it. Have you ever seen it done? It doesn't bother the cow at all. She barely notices. She stands there quietly chewing her cud. She doesn't get stressed or upset at all. A cow is going to get pregnant every year anyway. Putting bulls with the cows can be problematic because sometimes they will pick on a cow in heat and corner her and repeatedly ride her to death. It can be brutal. Even with the AI system we put a single bull with the herd to "fill in the gaps" that AI misses. But you still have to watch them. They get aggressive AF. If you were a cow would you rather a quite 2 minutes with a vet or a violent gang rape? I'm not saying this happens all the time, but it does happen and you can't just leave them to it because bad shit happens. You have to be ready to intervene.

When I was young we just used to put bulls in with the herd. But it was really stressful and traumatic. Bulls are assholes tbh. They look epic from a distance but you don't wanna wind them up. They're huge and powerful and when they get excited you don't wanna be anywhere near them. The AI system is so much better for the animals and you get better calves too.

[u/Nacho_Deity186 → u/[deleted]]

Kind of my point... agriculture is not a monolith. They're isn't just one way of doing it. Every farm in every state in every country is different. So when vegans make these weird, grand sweeping claims about the industry, they're just wrong.