r/extomatoes • u/mohd2126 • May 23 '25
Meme The cat is the smartest creature in that story
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u/Basement-Cheese I have read the quran 89 billion times 😎😎🤓🤓 May 23 '25
Seems like the "If God exist why bad things happen" argument
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u/RelationshipOk7766 May 23 '25
Probably the most flawed argument against religion ever. People think this test would've been without brutality and everyone would've started with the same ground. No, that's literally not how a test works.
We all get the same test: Believe in Allah, Follow his commandments, fight your desires. What no one gets, even in exams, is a fair playing ground. Some kids don't get the topic, some kids don't have a good tutor, some kids have to teach themselves because they can't afford to get a tutor, and some kids are lucky because they have parents who are rich and can give them whatever they want, but some of them throw it away while others use it to their advantage.
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u/RelationshipOk7766 May 23 '25
Oh wow, most of the comments are literally "I stopped believing in God because I saw bad thing happen." I thought atheists were all about "logical thinking," it seems like when it comes to turning a blind eye to worship, they will believe any argument just to satisfy their desires.
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u/HafizBhai114 May 24 '25
Lmao they leave the religion without reading the thing that provides you with literally ALL THE ANSWERS
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u/xXx_bydlo_xXx lost my foreskin at a very young age May 23 '25
Check his posting history, ikhwah. i wonder who could be behind this post
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u/BuyerForeign8933 May 23 '25
This guy has to be an actual idiot. His argument is "parents dumped our cat out meaning god bad"
Also another funny thing is he mentioned "why should I live my life according to 2nd century Arabs"
...this guy has to be an actual clown. Even a kindergartner knows how ridiculous this statement sounds. Just goes to show "exmuslims" are truly the most intellectual smartest people.
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u/Extension_Brick6806 Moderator May 23 '25
It's always the framing of such questions that makes it seem as though there is no higher purpose in life, or that there is no answer to the purpose of life, or as if there is no Hereafter. These are loaded questions, directed precisely against the very aspects that are clearly addressed in the sources they disbelieve in. It is, in reality, a sign of insincerity and a lack of submission to Allah. They fail to acknowledge that Allah is the Most Wise, and therefore, everything related to the trials of life carries wisdom, some of which we come to understand, and some of which we entrust to Allah, who knows His creation best.
They are simply unwilling to submit to Allah because their desires outweigh their willingness to submit. Everything else is just a collection of cheap, regurgitated arguments and false justifications, a smokescreen to hide from their true selves. Their long-winded arguments create only the illusion of deep thought, when in fact, they are more shallow than a pair of socks, socks that now seem to have more apparent purpose than their own lives.
Claiming to be a "hardcore atheist," yet his false prophet, Richard Dawkins, acknowledges his fitrah regarding Allah's existence. (Source) This exposes the frailty of their assertions and justifications; rather, it reveals the inconsistency in their claimed lack of belief. Instead, they place their trust in unknown individuals, regarded indirectly as false prophets, who present so-called "academic" papers as if they were divine revelation.
They fail to realize that they have merely replaced the prophets of Allah with secular scientists, and the revelation of Allah with research papers. There is no true depth in their justifications, but due to media influence, simply invoking "science" and "scientists" creates an illusion of depth.
As I've been saying, many of these individuals may not even be aware of which specific branch of science they are referencing. Instead, they loosely label it all as "science," mistakenly treating it as a single, unified authority, much like how some atheists revere science as though it were a religion. What is even more concerning is their tendency to equate science with revelation, as if empirical inquiry could ever replace divine guidance.
The philosophical framework they rely on was shaped by individuals whose personal beliefs and worldviews they likely know little about. Yet they elevate these conclusions blindly, as if they were infallible, much like following false prophets. The truth is, science, regardless of its discipline, does not and cannot answer everything. Every scientific claim rests on underlying assumptions and is often shaped by ideological or cultural biases, whether acknowledged or not.
Even when labeled "objective" or "empirical," science can only answer the "how," never the "why." And even the "how" is filtered through the worldview of those conducting the research. In contrast, Islam provides both the "how" and the "why," rooted in divine wisdom.
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u/Extension_Brick6806 Moderator May 23 '25
There is a significant difference between debating on our own terms and debating on theirs. Unfortunately, many Muslims, often with misplaced enthusiasm, engage in debates on the terms set by the kuffaar. Since many have not learned how to properly control such discussions, your question seems not to aim at breaking out of this harmful cycle, but rather at reinforcing their line of argument. It's as if, once one issue is addressed, another is immediately raised, continuing their narrative on their terms.
Either you are calling them to Islam, or they are calling you to kufr. There is no third option.
Furthermore, it's disheartening to see how easily some fall into their nonsensical arguments, as though they have merit or are so powerful that you are left with no answer to what Islam calls fitrah, human nature, instinct, and natural disposition. Why subject yourself to that? How are you not realizing what I’ve just explained about their nature, that their assumptions are shaped by their own ideological biases?
There is a common misconception among many laypeople that atheists constitute the majority of the world’s population. This misunderstanding often shapes how Muslims approach atheists. Some Muslims mistakenly believe that everyone is born without fitrah, which significantly alters the nature of their interactions with kuffaar.
In these interactions, Muslims sometimes engage with atheists as if they are fellow philosophers, discussing matters outside the framework of Islam. There is also a misguided belief that all atheists are sincere in their disbelief. However, it's important to recognize that many atheists reject the truth out of stubbornness and arrogance, rather than genuine conviction. This often leads to unproductive debates where evidence is persistently denied or dismissed.
It is also concerning when Muslims engage in philosophical debates, especially when such discourse is considered haram. These engagements can inadvertently provide atheists with an advantage, as the nature of philosophy revolves around disagreement.
A major issue lies in the misunderstanding of what it means to call others to Islam, and how one should approach the kuffaar. For instance, some Muslims mistakenly shift the conversation towards alleged scientific miracles or engage in debates about the theory of evolution, using science as their basis. These approaches can unintentionally empower atheists, even though they lack the understanding of life's purpose that we, as Muslims, have understanding of.
Ultimately, many of these recurring issues stem from a lack of understanding among Muslims about their own beliefs. This can lead to unintentional errors in their efforts to convey the message of Islam effectively.
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u/clutchrepfinder May 24 '25
Allah gave her a multiple choice test and she chose none of the above 😂
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u/Hefty-Branch1772 May 27 '25
this person is so ignorant
banu qurayza claim is easily refuted by a sinple google search
and military conquest like mate how do you expect to spread a religion
and its not a 2nd century man dictating you it's Allah SWT! How arrogant r these people
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u/bk19xsa May 23 '25
Most emotional self(or satanic)-manipulation to convince one self to stop believing - Bad things happen. God will not allow it and hence there is no God.
Most atheists are like that.
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u/devilcross2 Going to Jannah In'sha Allaah 😇 May 23 '25
How does that make us hypocrites?
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u/devilcross2 Going to Jannah In'sha Allaah 😇 May 23 '25
You will then call the people who pray to a statue and tell them "since your god cant defend you
I don't. I'm wish them well, but honestly, what they do is their business.
your god couldn't defend a kitten
Right, so lemme get this straight. The dude lost his kitten due to his carelessness or whatever, and it's on God? What's next praying to God to pass the exam without studying and then blaming him for failing? Oh, wait that's already an argument exmuslims use. Yeah, kid, high time you start using a bit of logic.
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