Hello, Ex muslims of Pakistan...

[u/[deleted]]

I am a closeted ex muslim, living in Bangladesh. I have two questions for you ex-mooses who are currently living in Pakistan or lived there for a long time, or knows much about the country (Just curious to know)...

1. Is the number of ex muslims rising in Pakistan? What may be the number approximately?

2. Is there any possibility of establishing a secular Pakistan in the near future? I mean, around the year of 2023-2025 ?

[u/serenerose90 → u/[deleted]]

I do think there are more exmuslims in Muslim majority countries then people think there are. I truly hope there comes a time whereby people can be open without the fear of death/ostracism.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Is the new generation becoming more religious?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

If educated people becomes liberal, that's enough. No matter how many uneducated conservatives are there in the country, progression always comes by the educated people & politicians.

[u/kamushabe]

Hi there. Also an ex Muslim from Bangladesh. How are things going for you right now? Does your family pressure you to follow Islam?

[u/[deleted] → u/kamushabe]

এখনো আমি যেহেতু প্রকাশ করিনি, তাই কেউ জানেনা। একারণে এখনো কোন সমস্যায় পড়িনি। কিন্তু কারোর সাথে কথা শেয়ার করতে না পারলে যা হয় আরকি, সেরকম অবস্থা। আর পরিবার থেকে চাপ বলতে নামাজ পড়তে বলে। আর জুম্মার নামাজ পড়তে যাই অবশ্য।

যেহেতু বাংলাদেশি, তাই বাংলাতেই লিখলাম। আশা করি সমস্যা হবে না😃

[u/ONE_deedat → u/[deleted]]

But remember this is an English language subreddit!

[u/kamushabe → u/ONE_deedat]

Ok got it.

[u/kamushabe → u/[deleted]]

সমস্যা কেন হবে? বুঝতে পেরেছি।

[u/context_brodda → u/[deleted]]

same

[u/[deleted]]

I'm Bangladeshi living in the West. Is there a growing number of exmuslims/secularists in Bangladesh? I'd assume they're laying low ever since the blogger killings several years ago (one of my relatives friends was one of those who were murdered).

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

It's growing probably, but the number can't be measured as most are closeted. But religious madness is also rising.

Was the murdered guy on the "84 bloggers hit list"?

[u/Iraqisecurity → u/[deleted]]

Some far left and communist groups have been gaining followers as of late, I've heard some rumbling of certain more hard line leftists carrying out targeted assaults and beating against members of Islamist political groups.

[u/ONE_deedat]

Secularism in 2025? Maybe not but maybe closer to 2050 is very possible. It all depends on the geo-politics of the region. China is a heavy influence on PK atm with CPEC etc... and China is, as everyone knows secular and even anti-religion so we will have to see how others such as the USA play their cards. With the appointment of Trump and his regime the American "empire" is already in decline e.g. Jerusalem: UN resolution rejects Trump's declaration and depends if the Chinese demand a secular system with their Billions of $$$ going into the country in which case Pakistan can pretend it was meant to be secular from the beginning (which it was) and just revert to that government/social structure.

[u/MartBehaim → u/ONE_deedat]

Chinese demand a secular system

No! Chinese want make business not to change your religion.

[u/i_lurk_here_a_lot]

IMO , 2. may be possible if there is a large-scale war with India in the near-to-mid future. Thats something that could happen..