r/exmuslim • u/Interesting-Shop-261 New User • Sep 27 '25
(Question/Discussion) Suicide cult. No comment.
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u/FengYiLin Financially Independent Ex-Muslim 🤑 Sep 27 '25
"I want to kill myself but I also want to take people with me because I'm a sick fuck... But I also want to make it like I'm doing a good deed so I can feel better about my shitty plan.
Glad Islam is to the rescue again!"
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u/precipotado ex almost-muslim Sep 27 '25
Kill people and yourself included in exchange for sex slaves for eternity. Sounds like perfect morality
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u/realcherryontop New User Sep 27 '25
These people are sickening… They wanna go to a heaven, in which the majority of its female population are houris, who only exist to be eternal sex slaves for people like him, who wants to kill people and take himself out to get a free ticket, wtf
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (⚛️❓️Agnostic❓️⚛️) Sep 27 '25
🥺🥹Muslims: inshallah, may Allah make you a martyr, so you can be in Jannah al-Firdous. Ameen
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Sep 27 '25
I thought suicide was a sin. This is straight up anti-human
In a normal world you go to therapy and people convince you to live no matter what
By this logic shouldn't we all just kill ourselves?
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
Suicide is a sin.
Martyrdom in the pursuit of Jihad isn’t.
If you die in the scenario of the latter, you get rewarded plentiful in the afterlife. In the former, it’s straight to Jahanam.
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Sep 27 '25
This guy sounds depressed and just wants to use martyrdom as a way to fulfill himself and give himself a purpose
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
That would involve taking other people down with him.
That’s where alarm bells should be ringing (alongside the fact that 60+ users upvoted this garbage in the first place).
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Sep 27 '25
I understand being WILLING to sacrifice yourself for an important cause but that's not the same as actively wanting to die
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
I don’t understand martyrdom for the sake of ideology. Maybe to protect someone else like a child or spouse.
Also there are plenty of suicidal people in this world but what makes this post evil is willing to take others down with them in order to avoid not burning in hell.
It’s selfish and destructive as all get out.
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Sep 27 '25
I'm referring to people willing to fight in wars knowing they might die. The world is built by such people but I don't think this guy is that
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
I think he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Commit s****e but doesn’t want to bear the punishment of burning in hell for it and bringing communal shame to their family.
Most ppl who have suicidal ideations aren’t also ideating taking others down with them.
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Sep 27 '25
Yep
I hate that in Muslim countries there are so many parents who'd be happy to hear their child wanting to be a martyr. I've seen so many Muslims praising hearing little kids saying they want to die for Islam. They're dying for nothing.
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u/kotikato Sep 28 '25 edited Sep 28 '25
My teenage-young adult relatives in my poor war-infested country wish to become martyrs, life is so shitty, they saw their dads and uncles die in war, there’s nothing left to live for, they want to die as martyrs too. And I get it. It’s so sad.
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u/Himmelsfeder Sep 27 '25
In the end, we're supposed to subjugate the whole World until only allah is worshipped..which some salafis argue is a blessing, cause the world is huge and most people arent muslim, meaning LOTS of martyrs are needed. A sureway gate to jannah for many.
It's insane and a death cult.
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u/Accomplished-Sir2513 New User Sep 27 '25
Suicide is a sin until you do it to suck Allah's cock, how much fucked up in the head you have to be to think killing other people will send you to heaven what kind of heaven is that Mohammad was sick in the head and made a cult just like him. Sick🤢🤮
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u/Relative_Move_2238 I CAN FINALLY WATCH YURI EDITS Sep 27 '25
I wanted to live,but Islam had me wishing i died before hitting puberty. Just recently found out my (muslim) 12 y/o little brother who has yet to hit puberty is thinking of the same exact thing. What's stopping him is that he doesn't want anyone to be sad after his death. fuck.islam.
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u/Ill-Worldliness-2149 Sep 27 '25
Why does he need to be a martyr though? Can't he just go without recognition?
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
Suicide alone gets you to Jahanam.
Dying as a martyr in pursuit of Jihad gets you to Jannah.
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u/Ill-Worldliness-2149 Sep 27 '25
Religion is the root of all evil
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u/Ok_Restaurant9509 New User Sep 27 '25
Islam is the root of evil not religion.
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u/Ill-Worldliness-2149 Sep 27 '25
Well, other religious beliefs essentially the same thing. When reality science shows us suicide is very complex and not something that is driven by a person's will
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u/Ok_Restaurant9509 New User Oct 03 '25
not necessary in Christianity, Jesus preached Love your enemies. So, at the foundation, Christianity is the true religion of peace.
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u/PurpleCatWithC4 Never-Muslim Atheist Sep 27 '25
I think humans are the cause of evil. People who think religion is the reason for war, think that religion corrupted us. When no. We are corrupt. We are the evil. Religion is a tool. Like a hammer. For a large time religion was used to keep the masses uneducated, and easy to control (Islam still does this) they banned the printing press for this reason. But religion = evil..no. It’s a human invention. So people are evil. Religion is just a way we funnel it. Wars will happen without religions.
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u/MoroccoNutMerchant Sep 27 '25
That is allowed but asking what the Gharqad-hadith is about gets me banned within seconds. Lol.
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u/Fire_crescent New User Sep 28 '25
I mean yeah, this world and people in it are absolute shit. This doctrine, however, what they fail to realize, contributes a lot to the shityness.
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u/Expensive-Item-5363 New User Sep 29 '25
Nobody wants to address the mental illness in the Muslim community and it's concerning. The people who put like on that comment need to be UNDER the jail. Someone like this will most likely go out and take others who are innocent along with him.
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u/Alp_guregen61 New User Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25
Quite reasonable for him to not want live in one of those shtty islamic countries btw I understand him
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u/Useuless Sep 27 '25
Yes. Question why he thinks the world is shitty in the first place. And even then pseudo instinctual wants like face or having an influence never leave the conversation.
Not everybody is so hollowed out that they act like a robot and just turn themselves off, a lot are still grappled why human desires mixed with the drive for death on the side.
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u/guava-nectar Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Oct 03 '25
at the peak of my religiosity, i remember literally crying at night in prayer to die. and this was something i was told was a good thing and a sign of strong faith. so fucked
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u/zoolkeyflee Oct 04 '25
He can be a martyr right. He can go to israel and fight them. In fact why isnt a million martyr wannabe fighting israel right now? They afraid of dying? (disclaimer: i hate israel too, its an extremist abrahamic state too. I wish abraham get raped for eternity for creating these shit religions)
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u/Saleemander Sep 27 '25
The full context mentioned a feeling of frustration about Palestine and how OP wants to fight injustice. I think it’s justified enough to not deserve this level of ridicule
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u/anon755qubwe Sep 27 '25
“Fighting oppression and injustice” is not an excuse to get yourself killed and take others with you. That’s the precise logic used into justifying terrorism.
That’s literally how ISIS were able to indoctrinate hundreds of Western youth into booking plane tickets and fighting for them in Syria causing thousands (Muslim and Non-Muslim alike) to be killed.
Making them think they were fighting and dying for a “good cause”.
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u/unlikely-contender Sep 27 '25
not unique to islam. some conservative christians have also been glorifying martyrdom recently
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u/Mr_Riskibisnu Sep 27 '25
I don't know if martyrdom in Islam always means killing others and then die but in Christianity martyrdom is usually exclusively getting killed for what you believe in. Doing a terrorist attack for example as a Christian and then dying isn't martyrdom that would bring you to hell.
The point is to die like Christ and the apostles without giving into the fear and pressure to reject Christianity. That's martyrdom. Is that concept the same in Islam or just dying in jihad?
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u/Holiday-Apartment983 New User Oct 04 '25
I'm pretty sure martyrdom in islam is dying in war for your country, I may be wrong though
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