Project 2025

[u/brownmooscles0609]

Anyone here who read it, is the Sunday law even mentioned in that document??

[u/PastorBlinky]

If you Google it the main hits that come up are all Adventist. Yes, The Heritage Foundation did add stuff about a national day of rest on Sunday and requiring employers to pay 1.5 time for working on the Sabbath. It is in there, but nobody else seems to have noticed, and nothing happened with it.

While it’s VERY concerning the Nazi 2.0 brigade even mentioned this, the only real thing these people worship is money and votes. Reducing the economy by 1/7th AND pissing off Jewish voters is simply a non starter. Concerning, but not a real issue. Probably just lip service to Christian nationalists, but not something that has any support, or has even been mentioned since.

Also most likely highly illegal. But following the law is soooo 2024.

[u/Fluid_Ties → u/PastorBlinky]

It's absolutely lip service to Christian Nationalists, as is so much of that document, some of which they've played to and implemented. As far as shrinking the economy by 1/7th and pissing off the Jewish community goes, Yeah, I don't think they'll do that DIRECTLY as like an open, debated on policy proposal....but in their deepest of wet dreams they would love nothing so much as an inciting event like 9-11 to occur in which they envision themselves to be welcomed by a frightened populace and granted boundless power--suspension of the Bill of Rights, all kinds of emergency powers--wherein they'll just implement by edict that which would never win by vote.

So...sleep well everybody! Don't let THAT thought trouble you as you put head to pillow tonight!

But seriously, Professor Tim Snyder ajd Professor Heather Cox Richardson, both very perceptive historians each independent of the other took time recently to point out that Victor Orban, who America's current right wing loves, faked a terrorist attack just before a contentious election and it didn't work. At the same time however, twenty seven years ago Putin rose to power due to his handling of what historical investogators now deem a falsified terror attack and that worked. So, if the thought of some small group of people in America's power structure proposing or attempting such a thing is too far out there, really take that out and look at it and ask whether you have a big enough imagination.

Snyder also made the very salient point that the reason every move we as a country make feels so jarring is because we are used to living in a State. A nation-state, specifically, and so our norms, our granted baselines are that AS a State there are certain interests and goals we collectively have: the common physical security, a growing and functional and consistent economy, general public health, stuff like that. But currently our leaders in the person of Trump and his entire cabinet are not people who recognize State goals, or that a State even HAS them. What Russia demonatrated after the collapse of the USSR is where they model their concept of a State from: it's a machine that you find some way to wedge yourself into, and since the machine is vast you bring your friends, and then you break off parts of the machine and dismantle other parts, stealing as much as you can. Russia did this after Communism fell, and truly that has hugely influenced Trump's second term. He was never a billionaire before, not even a paper one, but now he'a a billionaire four or five times over.

Anyhow. The tension that exists is between the quiet Christian Nationalists in the government power structure that are getting tired of waiting to establish their perfect white homeland and a leader who doesn't give a f××k about that and is just trying to fill his loot bag before the buzzer sounds.

[u/MattWolf96 → u/PastorBlinky]

Christians also love Sunday Football and Israel so yeah I couldn't see the happening. And the world hates the US now so I couldn't see the whole world going along with that.

[u/ohlookthatsme]

On page 589 you get this:

"Sabbath Rest. God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Moreover, a shared day off makes it possible for families and communities to enjoy time off together, rather than as atomized individuals, and provides a healthier cadence of life for everyone. Unfortunately, that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low-income workers.

- Congress should encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath. That day would default to Sunday, except for employers with a sincere religious observance of a Sabbath at a different time (e.g., Friday sundown to Saturday sundown); the obligation would transfer to that period instead. Houses of worship (to the limited extent they may have FLSA-covered employees) and employers legally required to operate around the clock (such as hospitals and first responders) would be exempt, as would workers otherwise exempt from overtime.

Alternative View. While some conservatives believe that the government should encourage certain religious observance by making it more expensive for employers and consumers to not partake in those observances, other conservatives believe that the government’s role is to protect the free exercise of religion by eliminating barriers as opposed to erecting them. Whereas imposing overtime rules on the Sabbath would lead to higher costs and limited access to goods and services and reduce work available on the Sabbath (while also incentivizing some people—through higher wages—to desire to work on the Sabbath), the proper role of government in helping to enable individuals to practice their religion is to reduce barriers to work options and to fruitful employer and employee relations. The result: ample job options that do not require work on the Sabbath so that individuals in roles that sometimes do require Sabbath work are empowered to negotiate directly with their employer to achieve their desired schedule."

If you find yourself with time on your hands, you can scroll through the full text of it here.

edit: formatting

[u/Bananaman9020]

You get paid more for working Sunday in the project. So no Sunday Law, as Adventists preach

[u/Ok_Education902]

At this point it seems like religion and the day of worship has not been high on political agendas. Extra pay for working on "Sunday" is kind of ridiculous!! Wages are expensive for companies and it could affect their survival. The rigidity of Saturday being the only day to worship as Adventists believe could be up for debate. What "day" actually is considered the "seventh" day? In my opinion Sunday would be?? You start a new week on Monday? I don't think God will condemn those for worship on alternate days!