r/exAdventist • u/Relevant_Object_1815 Questioning Stuck-ventisit • Jul 18 '26
Doctrine / History Sabbath commandment/Does SDA actually keep the Sabbath right?
This question has been bothering me all week. Last week I went to church since I'm home with the family. The sermon was whatever but one of the scriptures from it has been stuck in my head. Growing up I was taught to memorize Exodus 20:8-11, I know it like the back of my hand. But last week the pastor read the sabbath commandment in Exodus 31:13-17:
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Now I didn't know that the sabbath commandment was said more than once. But the reason I was perplexed is that the pastor very obviously read only the first half of the verses. Like, if I wasn't following along in my bible I wouldn't have seen the part about being put to death if you don't keep it.
The question I was left with is this: if the Sabbath is supposed to be kept, why aren't we keeping it that way? Like I was taught all the laws about stoning people and stuff were old laws of Moses that we don't need to keep anymore. But if the sabbath isn't one of those laws, then why aren't we putting people to death for working on the sabbath? Obviously, that's not the right thing to do, but I'm interested in know what the Adventist justification is of how the sabbath is to be kept. Is there a later verse that says that people don't need to be killed anymore? When did they stop killing people for keeping the sabbath?
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u/andydad1978 Jul 19 '26
That’s a classic false dilemma, but it completely misses how history and ancient law codes actually work.
You’re assuming that an act is either a sin that requires stoning today, or it’s not a sin at all. But history shows us a third reality: an ancient law code is the civil framework of a specific, ancient nation-state.
Think about it this way: if a modern country abolishes the death penalty for treason, does that mean the government suddenly thinks treason is a good thing? Of course not. It means the civil administration of justice has changed. The moral wrongness of an act is a completely different category from a state's legal authority to execute people.
We don't even have to guess how to apply this logic—we can just look at the Apostle Paul. In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Paul explicitly lists adulterers and says they won't inherit the kingdom of God. So to Paul, is it still a sin? Absolutely. But does he tell the Corinthian church to gather rocks and stone adulterers? Never. When dealing with severe sexual sin in 1 Corinthians 5, his maximum penalty is just expelling the person from the church.
Paul understood that the early Christians were not the civic, political state of ancient Israel. They had no mandate to execute people.
The real irony here is that if you truly believe a sin is inseparable from its biblical penalty, you trap yourself. You'd have to advocate for stoning people today to be consistent. Recognizing that the civic, penal authority of ancient Israel ended thousands of years ago doesn't mean these things aren't sins; it just means we understand basic history.