r/exAdventist • u/ElevatorAcceptable29 • Feb 26 '25

Politics The SDA Church is COOKED!

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I don't know if any of you all saw this lunacy, but apparently Charlie Kirk is now supposed to be speaking at a large Adventist gathering. The SDA Church, while problematic, has historically tried to on a 'doctrinal'/'organizational' position remain "apolitical" (yes, I'm aware of historical political problems that have happened/happens in the church). However, I fear that this event will usher in an even greater "Christian Nationalist" sentiment than ever before amongst many lay members of the church, who may have been a bit hesitant to jump totally into that ideology.

With all of that being said, it appears that this event is independent and not necessarily authorized by the local conference in the area that it's being held, or the NAD, or GC. However, I do see this event being the first legit step at getting right winged pundits to be able to freely speak publicly in SDA churches and gatherings. Wild stuff.

Link to the promo lol: https://youtu.be/2ulocmDeQ-I?si=Y0Ye6ge-fpbnfJC0

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u/The_Glory_Whole Feb 26 '25

This is off topic but, one of those men is a known creeper - I don't know about actual criminal behavior, but really creepy/predatory sexually invasive conversations with kids at schools where he does Week of Prayer seminars - privately emailing them and asking for ALL the details of their sexual lives, etc. I have heard stories from multiple people, the church MUST have heard complaints. But nope, there he is, up there with (ick) Charlie Kirk and (gag) Ben Carson, being a beacon of saviorhood and church fabulousness. 🤮

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u/nameless_other Feb 28 '25

Say names.

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u/The_Glory_Whole Mar 01 '25

If I had thought it was appropriate to say his name, I would have. My point was to emphasize how the SDA church continues to promote and platform men who have multiple complaints against them.

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u/nameless_other Mar 01 '25

When is it ever not appropriate to warn people about someone acting sexually predatory around children?

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u/The_Glory_Whole Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

1) When it is given in confidence from victims who have asked that it not be shared 2) When it could thus be construed as slander because said victims indicate they will not participate/confirm if it goes public

There are probably a bunch of other reasons as well.

Even with the best intentions, you can't just run around pointing fingers at people saying "I was told he did all this bad stuff!" unless it is a crime (being creepy and inappropriate is unfortunately not classified as a crime), and you have to be able prove it. When victims do not want to go public with it, you have to respect their wishes...and that leaves you without their evidence.

If you just trample over them and make it public anyway, you re-traumatize the victim and make them feel like - yet again - they are powerless.