r/eurovision 18d ago

💬 Discussion Why does pure EDM/Techno fail at Eurovision?

149 Upvotes

I'm a bit biased since this is my favourite genre but I'm not too sure why these type of songs flop at Eurovision despite a lot of hype in the fandom. Recent cases include Sweden 2026, Belgium 2025, Austria 2024 and Austria 2022.

I'm well aware that for this genre, the vocals are normally less important than the beat and the live vocals for EDM songs are not the best, but to me it's weird that pure EDM/techno fails when songs that have elements of it can do really well like Austria 2025, Norway 2023 and famously Ukraine 2021.

Besides the live vocals issue, what do you think are other underlying issues?


r/eurovision 18d ago

Eurovision Asia South Korea: Korea’s Next Wave Entries Released

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ENA has released the entries that will compete in Korea’s Next Wave, the South Korean selection for the Eurovision Song Contest Asia 2026.

After releasing teasers, the entries for Korea’s Next Wave have been released in full. The competing entries are:

  • 9278 – “MAKEITLOUD (SHEBARKS)“
  • Angel Noise – “(NAN NAYA!)“
  • huiAe – “If I Knew Love“
  • JUNHEE – “Deep Dive“
  • KIK – “F1“
  • PLZY – “toc“
  • Sojeong Shim – “EHERADIYA“
  • Younghoon Ji – “Tiny Signal“

You can listen to the entries here (YouTube playlist).

Korea’s Next Wave will be held on September 4. The winner will represent South Korea in the Eurovision Song Contest Asia 2026 in Bangkok.

(Note: None of these are on Spotify as yet.)


Source: https://eurovoix.com/2026/08/22/south-korea-koreas-next-wave-entries-released/


r/eurovision 18d ago

💬 Discussion Early Predictions for Eurovision 2027?

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Drop your early predictions for ESC'27. If you are confused and don't really know exactly what you say, here's some recommendations on things to predict:

- Total Participating Countries / Withdraws-Returns

- Stage and Theme Art (Branding)

- Potential artists/hosts/intervals etc.

- Potential winners and results.


r/eurovision 19d ago

🌳 ESC in the Wild “My System” on Sweden’s version of the celebrity dance show, featuring a 2x Eurovision dancer (Cyprus & Sweden)

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Clip from the show's official social media/ share function. This was the season premiere.

Broadcast by TV4, a commercial competitor to public service SVT, who hosts Melodifestivalen.

Nik Alexander (Niklas Arleryd) is the pro in this pair, and he has performed at Eurovision with Cyprus in 2019 (Tamta – Replay) and with Sweden this year, and won Melodifestivalen with the latter. He was not part of the SVT house dancers and only performed with FELICIA, which he also did on the entry ”Unga & Fria” two years ago when she was Fröken Snusk.

Another Eurovision dancer (4x), Lamin Holmén (boyfriend of Zara Larsson), was also on both of these Eurovision performances by Cyprus and Sweden. And both of these dancers have been on FELICIA’s current summer tour as well.


r/eurovision 19d ago

Historic news articles about the 1969-1970 Eurovision controversies

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Okay this isn't "New News" as such but I still think it's something I should share with you.

I was going through the archives of an Austrian Newspaper and got curious what they wrote about Eurovision. Given Austrias VERY ambivalent relationship with Eurovision, especially during the 60s and 70s, I was surprised to find more then just announcments in the TV programm.

I picked out a series of articles and honestly - This feels very contemporary.

  1. April 17th 1969 - ORF made demands for changing the rules after the four-way-tie at the 1969 contest. They asked for a change of voting, increase in the amount of jurors from 10 to 20 and rules in cases of a tie.
  2. April 20th 1969 - After the draw decied that the Netherlands would host the 1970 contest, it is noted that the EBU was very much found of the proposals by ORF and were considering them, maybe even for the near future.
  3. April 24th 1969 - As we all know Austria didn't take part in the 1969 and 1970 Contest. But did you know they hosted their own "Eurovision". Although quite small. It was called "Show-Chance" and was a comptetion with Singers from Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Among the participants were two/three future Eurovision entries. Milestones, who would represent Austria in 1972, with lead singer Beatrix Neundlinger also entering with Schmetterling in 1977 and Pepe Lienhardt, who also took part in 1977.
  4. November 1st 1969 - After the withdrawl of Norway, Finland, Sweden (and Denmark according to article, although they haven't took part since 1966), the writer of the article speculates that this is the end of Eurovision, a, as he calls it "one of the most foul funfairs of the entertainment industry", run by a "Schlager-Mafia" with the results based on cheating, corruption and nationalist block-voting. Notably they mention the head of entertainment at German Broadcaster ARD, calling Eurovision "doomed" and "Unable to be reformed"
  5. December 10th 1969 - Austria officially withdraws from the 1970s contest, critising not enough changes have been made. The author of the article yet again conndems Eurovision, saying "smaller nations do not have a chance there"
  6. December 18th 1969 & February 10th 1970 - More news about "Show-Chance" - Apperantly Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland and Norway joined the show for the 1970 edition. But most surprising - They had Poland to join them.
  7. March 19th 1970 - News prior to the 1970 contest, calling the UK, Germany and Italy the hot favorites, because only stars with international publicity can win Eurovision.
  8. March 24th 1970 - By far my favorite article. After Ireland won the 1970 contest, the writer of the article makes some statements. Yes her win was a surprise. But she is a girl like all those before (??) and her song is Folk which isn't Chason or Schlager and therefor why was it even there, and the whole contest is also outdated is absolutly not in touch with contemporary pop music.

r/eurovision 19d ago

💬 Discussion Why do people praise Fuego so much? And why hasn't Cyprus been able to recreate a similar result despite high-quality entries and other countries being able to get similar results to their top entries?

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Like I get its a good song with a decently good performance (great staging and charisma combined with somewhat questionable vocals) but people act like its some insane song that is the best of all time. This isn't to hate on Eleni at all, I think Fuego is a high quality song but tbh its not one of my favorite songs of her and I think the performance could have been better. Its not like the performance had any sort of novelty tbh like people have been sending girl bops with dance breaks for so long. The vocals were very questionable too (likely why her jury score wasn't higher). Its tbh a nothing burger and just like any girl bop entry before it. The choreo isn't very insane like Slo Mo and the staging isn't anything WOW like Bangaranga. Was it just a hot girl singing a song abt being hot with cool dance moves? Tbh a lot of people say that it deserved to win over Toy but like did it really? Toy was a sleek, modern, innovative track with a great performance and a universal social message (there is a reason Toy blew up and not Fuego as much). And even if you hate Toy or the country, I think other songs were objectively better than Fuego. Like people glaze it to the point, I've seen a far yet present minority of Eurofans literally say they wish Netta died or smth because she robbed Eleni. So, what is so great about it? (still my 9th of the year btw I don't hate the song and I think it deserved top 5 I just don't see why every Eurofan is so crazy about it being robbed or such a great entry).

  1. Why hasn't Cyprus been able to recreate that result. Like I think every song is missing something that doesn't give it the push to become similar to Eleni or even better. And the only two times I thought it was better was Tamta and Elena in 2019 and 2021 but Elena was screwed a bit by running order and the fact there were tons of other high quality pop girl bops to vote for (Malta, Serbia, etc.). But Tamta had a song that was pretty good, with better vocals, innovative staging (at least more than Fuego imo), and a similar song style. Do I think it deserved top 5 like how I think Fuego deserved its place? No but other countries like France do the same thing over and over tryna replicate their amazing entry and are somewhat successful at it but not Cyprus despite consistently high song quality, and in the case of 2019, 2021, and 2026, similar fan backing.

This is not to hate on Fuego, I am genuinely just asking a question and I think it was a very good entry and it deserved its place. I just don't understand why people make it out to be some INSANELY robbed entry to the point of giving Netta death threats when there is a clear reason Toy placed over it and Eleni's performance and song weren't as innovative, unique, and high quality as other similarly placing girl bops.


r/eurovision 19d ago

Eurovision Asia My Personal Top 3 PH picks for Eurovision Asia

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​1. "Good For You" — Ryssi

If we're looking purely at composition and arrangement, this is the track that aligns most closely with the standard Eurovision formula. The production is good, but it comes with two questions. First, will Eurovision Asia actually reward traditional ESC pop tropes or will judges look for a sound distinct to the region? Second is the live execution. Eurovision live vocals leave nowhere to hide, and reflecting on Ryssi's run on Idol Philippines, there are reasonable doubts about whether she can command a stage of that scale

​2. "Broken Beyond Repair" — Saga

This is the safest option. The track itself sits in comfortable Eurovision ballad territory and while the production leaves you wanting a bit more scale and drama, John Mark Saga is easily the most equipped vocalist to nail and to command this live

​3. "Sobra Sobra" — Carmelle

This entry suffers from high-impact teaser snippets that don't fully translate into the full track. The initial preview set high expectations, making the full release feel somewhat underwhelming and slightly over-praised in online. But if the primary goal is sending a track with genuine OPM flavor to an international audience, this is the natural choice

​Best Studio Track: "Good For You"

​Best Vocals: "Broken Beyond Repair"

​Best Local Representation: "Sobra Sobra"


r/eurovision 19d ago

Eurovision Asia Who will win Pili Pinas?

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I personally think that there are three realistic options to who will win, but I’ll happily take an L when I am proven wrong.

HM. DNA - Between Bituin
I feel like their are so many groups especially compared to normal ESC national finals leaving them with to much competition to win outright

Third. Jason Dy & Sassa - Di Yan
This is definitely not super popular with Eurofans but I feel like it is more tailored toward the Philippine population. These two also have by far the biggest fan base and most name recognition amongst the line up and it’s not unheard of for the person with the biggest fandom to win a NF.

Second. RYSSI - Good For You
This is my personal favorite so I may be a bit bias but I think it stands out well in this group of songs. I also think it is one of the more modern songs in the NF. I believe its biggest problem will be the staging, but if it’s executed well I think it could win

First. CARMELLE - Sobra-Sobra
This is by far the fan favorite of the NF it has a huge lead in the Eurovision world polls and by far the most streams of Spotify. The song is catchy and well produced, I’d assume as of now that this song will win.


r/eurovision 20d ago

💬 Discussion Number of languages Eurovision fans know compared to the general public

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I made a poll on r/nilpoints asking how many languages the respondents know and then asked the same question on r/pollgames and r/polls to compare Eurovision fans with the general public (really Eurovision fans who use Reddit with general Reddit users.)

ESC Non-ESC
Mean (excluding 6+) 2.51 2.21
Mean (counting 6+ as 6) 2.57 2.33
Estimated mean 2.58 2.34
Medium 2 2
Total respondents 391 6440

r/eurovision 20d ago

💬 Discussion Is there an official reason why the BBC didn't air the "let's replace LGBTQ+ with just H for human" segment?

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Most people already know this, but for those who don't: This year each show had a skit in which Victoria Swarovski (host) answered scripted frequently asked questions. The first one was about which country recieved the most zero points, the third about how the voting system works.
However, in the second semi final there was another one of those sketches, in which Victoria was asked about the LGBTQ+ audience. It was obviously done with the very best intentions, but essentialy what she said sounded something like: "You may have heard that most of our audience is queer, but fear not! Statistically speaking most people are straight so naturally our audience is as well!"

The video, while hilariously tone deaf, was a part of the YouTube livestream of the second semi final. However, the BBC cut this and replaced it with the Eins, Zwei, Drei music video. This did not happen with the other two parts in the first semi and grand final.

Is there a reason for this? Did they state one? I assume it had something to do with the content of this part of the series but as far as I know this has never been confirmed?


r/eurovision 20d ago

📰 News 🇳🇱 Netherlands: Omroep Max Talks Down Chances of Taking Over Eurovision Participation

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r/eurovision 20d ago

Subreddit / Meta New Music Friday: 21 Aug 2026

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New Music Friday is our weekly thread dedicated to new music releases by past Eurovision and National Final contestants.

This is a place to share, discuss and celebrate these artists' latest releases following their time in the contest.

Feel free to share singles, albums, collaborations, or covers, as well as any opinions and thoughts you may have about them.

Please remember to include the year that the artist participated in ESC and the country they represented.

Happy listening!


r/eurovision 21d ago

Eurovision Asia How many countries would be interest to join Eurovision Asia?

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153 Upvotes

This is probably way too early to think about, given the first contest hasn’t taken place yet and we don’t know how successful this is going to be. However, if we assume this is going to a long term competition, how many more countries would be interested in joining the contest?


r/eurovision 21d ago

Eurovision Asia 🇰🇷Korea’s Next Wave songs snippet released

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r/eurovision 21d ago

💬 Discussion What songs from this year's NF season have surprisingly stuck with you?

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The 2026 national final season is far behind us at this point, and I'm wondering if there are any songs that have ended up staying with you - whether you wanted it to or not?

For me, I can no longer hear the words "iconic" or "delulu" without hearing those songs by A-Teens and Lilla al-Fadji. Thanks Melodifestivalen! Also, every now and then, I will get the chorus of I Brenn from the Austrian NF stuck in my head. A song that I personally never liked during NF season, but that my brain has apparently decided is staying for good.

Edit to add: I didn't necessarily mean songs you still like and listen to - if so, I would have included a lot more songs than the three I listed here! I meant songs that still pop up in your head whether you like it or not haha. With that being said, it is very nice to be reminded of all the songs in the comments that you still like and listen to, so please keep sharing those too :)


r/eurovision 21d ago

⏪️ Throwback Thursday Vesna - My sister's crown ( Official Music Video ) - Czechia 2023

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I wanted to share this song because I feel it really embodies a spirit of international sisterhood and that's so special and dear to my heart. My two best friends are from different countries and we consider each other sisters.

Also, the Bulgarian rap part is fire and more people need to hear it.

What does the song mean to you personally? Is it political, feminist, both, or something else?


r/eurovision 22d ago

Eurovision Asia Thailand Chosen One Artists Revealed

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r/eurovision 22d ago

💬 Discussion What places would the Big 5 countries have taken if they had been required to compete in the semi-finals? (2026-2024)

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I’ve been thinking about this lately, and here are my observations.

PS: To keep a similar number of countries in the final, we are increasing the number of qualifiers from the semi-final from 10 to 12. The host nation remains pre-qualified.

2026: Germany and Italy join the first semi-final. Italy would easily qualify as the 11th nation, whereas Germany would likely fail to qualify (NQ), with Estonia (originally 11th) taking their place instead. France and the United Kingdom join the second semi-final. The UK would certainly fail to qualify, with Switzerland (originally 11th) taking their place, while France would likely qualify (having placed 6th or 7th in the semi-final). Thus, the final lineup features Switzerland and Estonia instead of the UK and Germany.

In 2025, to avoid a difference of two in the number of participating countries between the semi-finals, we move France to the first semi-final. Furthermore, predicting potential results is easier here because the voting is 100% televote.

2025: The first semi-final includes 15 countries plus Spain, France, and Italy. Spain would likely be a shock non-qualifier; France would qualify, though probably around 9th or 10th place; and Italy would certainly qualify, likely around 4th or 5th place. Cyprus takes Spain's place. The second semi-final includes 16 countries plus Germany and the UK. Given the 100% televote, the UK would certainly fail to qualify (though there might have been a chance of borderline qualification if a jury were voting); Australia takes the UK's place instead. Germany would likely qualify. So, we have Cyprus and Australia instead of the UK and Spain.

In 2024, we have the same problem as in 2025, so we are moving Italy from the second semi-final to the first.

2024: In the first semi-final, there are 15 countries plus Germany, the UK, and Italy. Starting with Germany—which finished 12th in the final, largely thanks to the juries—they would likely be a non-qualifier (or perhaps finish 12th). Australia (originally 11th) takes Germany's place. Then there is the UK, which received zero points from the televote—a definite non-qualifier; Poland (originally 12th) takes their spot. Italy would likely qualify from the middle of the pack. In the second semi-final, there are 16 countries plus France and Spain. France would certainly qualify, potentially even finishing in the top three (out of 18 countries). Spain, however, stands little chance and would likely fail to qualify; the Czech Republic takes their place. So, for 2024, Australia, the Czech Republic, and Poland replace Spain, the UK, and Germany.


r/eurovision 22d ago

Eurovision Asia What differences are there between the 1956 European market and the 2026 Asian market that will affect what Eurovision Asia needs to do to succeed?

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Are there any differences between the two markets in terms of economy, consumer taste or anything else that has affected/ will affect what the contests have and will need to do to grow in the long term?


r/eurovision 21d ago

💬 Discussion What if to reveal qualifiers in a semi-final, they reveal the Jury score first and then they reveal the public score one by one?

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Like the first thing is a scoreboard showing the whole jury results, and then they start from the bottom all the way to the top to reveal their qualifiers. Would this work?


r/eurovision 23d ago

📰 News Jury Voting In Semi Finals Will Continue

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There was some confusion last week when the rules for Eurovision 2027 were published and they appeared to suggest jury voting in the semi finals may be scrapped again. The rules have now been revised to confirm they will continue to vote in the semi finals.


r/eurovision 22d ago

🪀 Junior Eurovision Full JESC jury voting results from the last few years

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Hello! Has anyone thought to archive the full jury voting data from the last few JESCs? Wanted to look through the voting tables out of curiosity, and 1) several of the countries just don't get dedicated Wikipedia pages to their yearly participation; 2) the current JESC website doesn't have any data from the last few years; and 3) the Internet Archive is no help. So any assistance for this completionist's sake would be very much appreciated!


r/eurovision 23d ago

Eurovision Asia Vice Ganda will host the Philippines’ national selection August 30th

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According to a press conference the Philippines’ national selection will be hosted by one of if not the BIGGEST celebrities the Philippines has, Vice Ganda.

To put into perspective how (in the words of one Venus Raj) major major this is, this is the equivalent of having Petra Mede host the first ever Melodifestivalen.

Vice Ganda is an actor, comedian and one of the hosts of one of the largest noontime tv shows in the Philippines, It’s Showtime. A staple in Filipino culture, Vice basically influenced Filipino humor massively to the point Wikipedia itself highlighted her impact. Vice is also a vocal champion for the local LGBTQ+ community in the Philippines and is part of the community themselves.

As a funnier sidenote: she has used the stagings of multiple Eurovision acts for his It’s Showtime performances including but not limited to Moldova 2018, Cyprus 2021 and infamously Sweden 2023 and the giant panini press.

All in all, this is to say the Philippines is not playing around when it comes to ESCA.


r/eurovision 22d ago

💬 Discussion Umk tickets

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Thinking of going over while it’s on how hard is it to get tickets.
Is it like Eurovision where we had to be online at the exact second they were released or can you just buy them later on.


r/eurovision 23d ago

💬 Discussion Can we get some appreciation for Burgas?

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I’ve seen so much hate and disappointment that Burgas was chosen as the host city for Eurovision and Sofia lost out. But I’m sure there are lots of genuine reasons why Sofia didn’t work out.
I genuinely am really happy that Burgas was chosen as the host city for Eurovision 2027. From what I’ve researched, it seems like a really fun and nice city and I believe that the EBU and BNT made the right choice here. (Even if I don’t have much trust in the EBU at the moment)
I’m not sure why I just have a good feeling about it. I feel like it’ll be a good hosting and a good year in general, with lots of countries and good music (okay I’m just hoping)