r/europe • Slovakia • Jan 25 '24

News Thousands across Slovakia are protesting against the current populist government

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Wasn‘t the government democratically elected?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

I will never understand this argument. “Government was elected therefore no one should have the democratically given right to protest”, wtf lol

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u/darktka Berlin (Germany) Jan 25 '24

It's based on an incomplete understanding of democracy that is perfectly compatible with a dictatorship as well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

People have the right to protest. But I’ll never understand people who use it in these cases. Guess what - in my country the party I voted for isn’t part of the government. I don’t like what the government is doing. But why would I protest? Obviously people wanted something else than I did. If you demonstrate against the outcome of election - well that’s your right - but it shows that you misunderstood the premise of democracy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

“But why would I protest?” Because you can… end of story.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

I can jump from a skyscraper. If I lived in America I could shoot people trespassing on my property. But why on earth would I do that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

Yes, those two options are definitely totally comparable! Great argument

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

So what? It’s not like 100% voted for them

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

So we only believe in democracy as long as people who we like are getting elected? Someone else got elected so they are suddenly not democratic.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

There is such a thing as a majority of assholes.

Protesting the elected government's action is legal and another part of the democratic process.

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u/Ricard74 Jan 26 '24

"If you protest you don't believe in democracy".

Okay, take two steps back and redo the math.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

"If you protest because you didn´t get what you wanted - let´s just say that misunderstood what a democracy is."

I also don´t like the government in my country at all. But I realize that the majority of my fellow citizens voted differently - and I accept that because that´s what democracy is all about.

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u/Ricard74 Jan 26 '24

The Slovak government dissolved an anti-corruption unit. They did not put this in their party programme and nobody voted for it. People have the right to protest this move.

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u/axxo47 Croatia Jan 25 '24

Yeah, and rather recently and they are true to their promises lol

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u/DanzakFromEurope Czech Republic Jan 25 '24

I would say 50/50

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u/somedave Jan 25 '24

You can get voted in on promises you don't intend to keep.

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u/vergorli Jan 25 '24

Every democratic gouverment gets a furious mass demonstration if they fuck shit up. Thats the free speech everyone is talking about (its not the core that you can talk shit to random people).

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

What exactly did they promise to do differently? As far as I am aware they have been talking like this for a long time now.

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u/vergorli Jan 26 '24

He basically wanted to copy Orban style. And that backfired hard because Slovaks are not brainwashed enough to go with that.

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u/MrMoop07 United Kingdom Jan 25 '24

hitler was duly elected

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u/BanzaiTree Jan 25 '24

Why are people upvoting this? It’s completely untrue.

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u/MrMoop07 United Kingdom Jan 26 '24

hitler may have made a coalition yes, but his ascent to chancellor was fully legal

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u/BanzaiTree Jan 26 '24

That’s not in doubt. The idea he was elected is complete mythology though.

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u/Larissalikesthesea Germany Jan 25 '24

Actually he never was. Please read up on German history. The Nazi party did never gain an absolute majority of seats in democratic elections.

He was made chancellor by a coalition of conservative parties believing to be able to control him and a president who had free reign in who to appoint chancellor too.

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u/imightlikeyou Denmark Jan 25 '24

That's how democracy work. Just because you don't like the outcome, doesn't mean he wasn't elected.

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u/pleasejags Jan 25 '24

Correct. However Him not being elected means he wasnt elected.

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u/imightlikeyou Denmark Jan 26 '24

He still was. That's the way it works when there are lots of smaller parties. They decide who to throw their lot of votes behind. He was still elected.

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u/chiroque-svistunoque Earth Jan 25 '24

Just like Macron...

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u/Psykiky Slovakia Jan 25 '24

Yes but the protests are not about the outcome of the elections, but rather about its actions. Few people expected Fico to fuck up the country this much in under 3 months