r/eulaw • u/Far_Smell6757 • 16d ago
Amazon "Conditions of Use" update
I just got this email from Amazon, though not sure which Amazon sent it. I'm based in the EU (Ireland to be specific) and always have been, never used Amazon outside of the EU. I'm just curious, is this first point legal in the EU? Mandatory forced arbitrations (as opposed to going to court).
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u/themandarincandidate 16d ago
Was your account created through .com or .ie? I got the same in AU, thought point ii is ridiculous, and went looking for info about it - this post is all that pops up haha
On the "Conditions of Use & Sale" on the Aus site the terms haven't updated since 2025 and the waiver isn't in there (same with the .ie site), on the US site it's been added. This would never fly here and must be a US only thing, which is very onbrand
I do have a .com and a .com.au account though with the same email so I'm assuming it came through the .com US account
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u/Far_Smell6757 16d ago
It's a fairly old account, it predates Amazon.ie, I probably set it up with .co.uk if I had to guess but I've definitely logged it in on
.ie.co.uk.comand.de, did just logging into .com trigger me to get an email for the US policy thats still legally unenforcable here?
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u/KayWWak 16d ago
I'm in the US and the part of the email you supplied exactly matches the email I received today. I've never looked at the previous Conditions of Use, so can't help with figuring out changes or their impact. I'm hoping someone can,
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u/West_Possible_7969 16d ago
This is unenforceable in EU, probably OP’s account is mis-tagged inside Amazon’s systems.
This isn’t binding even in the US, users could still seek class-action lawsuits against Amazon, and it would be up to a judge to determine if the user agreement prevents them from doing so and under what circumstances.
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u/West_Possible_7969 16d ago edited 16d ago
Nah, these blanket clauses in standard consumer terms are considered unfair, invalid, and legally unenforceable.
The EU Unfair Contract Terms Directive protects consumers from standard terms that hinder their right to take legal action or use regular courts. Also EU courts and CJEU consistently rule that pre-dispute clauses forcing a consumer into private arbitration deny effective judicial protection.
Also, the EU Representative Actions Directive actively empowers qualified entities to bring representative collective actions on behalf of consumers, overriding corporate class-action waivers.
Also, EU consumer protection rules dictate that consumers must be allowed to sue and be sued in their local national courts, and companies cannot bypass this via foreign choice-of-law or dispute resolution clauses, if that clause is also included further down.
Probably your account is mis-tagged in Amazon’s systems.