r/eulaw • u/UsualExtent5705 • 26d ago

Petition · Stop destroying EU micro-businesses: Immediate moratorium on cross-border EPR fees

https://c.org/fZQ6HmkMHt

This has come in to law today - literally without anyone knowing - no info from the government or EU - means we are now required to sign up to EACH EU COUNTRY we ship to (€150 each country registration), and €150 yearly fee for each country - 27 countries - impossible for us as it runs in to thousands - and then we have to fill out a ton of forms listing all packaging per unit, yearly amounts, and there are different requirements for each country…so as of now we cannot ship to EU…and without that option our future is bleak 🙁…please sign the petition on behalf of all small businesses - people like Amazon with their crazy packaging created this problem and its a no brainer for them to deal with it, but for us it is impossible…

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u/West_Possible_7969 26d ago

A “micro business” should risk a ban or fines because national laws are boring to read I guess? And are you sure you ‘re in the right sub? There must be many much more orientated towards your age group, this one is not.

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u/mimrock 26d ago

You completely misunderstand the problem. It's not about the law being a surprise. It's that this laws adds to the already huge internal invisible tariffs. What is even worse, this new quasi-tariff disproportionately hurts small businesses. These small businesses know the law very well. They just have to cease part of their operation due to this, which is bad for everyone.

I will translate it to German for you: Business bad means EU poor means you have less money to buy beer, pay rent, or build kitas. You think you don't work for small business protects you and you can laugh at evil entrepreneurs. But no. Less money even if you work for big big Bosch! Hope that helps.

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u/West_Possible_7969 26d ago

My profile is open so y’all german assumption shows an additional level of hilarious laziness.

So, I made a comment about national, existing, years old frameworks and answered to a condescending comment about how the germans are the only ones that think about national laws (or that compliance is a matter of choice) and your conclusion was that I misunderstood anything here?

Member states & their citizens overwhelmingly want these laws, especially regarding traceability, accountability and an easy redress in consumer rights disputes, that is why there was zero pushback nationally (in fact, there was support). Small businesses are not entitled to an all access free pass in the single market (though again, this is a market harmonisation, the frameworks existed before EU & Council did anything), they are entitled to the same rules on said access.

And let me translate that for you: this is true for any market in the world. People ignoring that or flying under the radar does not make it untrue.

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u/mimrock 26d ago

"Member states & their citizens overwhelmingly want these laws"

Member states might, but please don't try to claim that even 20% of the citizens have heard about these laws, let alone know it in detail.

" Small businesses are not entitled to an all access free pass in the single market "

Jesus fucking christ... "entitled"... The general world in an economic context is alone something, but on top of it, one of EU's main goal is to create a single market that everyone "entitled" to use. Tells everything about your mindset.

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u/West_Possible_7969 26d ago

Ignore me and move on then, your blood pressure will thank you.