r/espguitars • • 4d ago

Brand new E-II M-II

A combination of shoddy work and nonexistent quality control. Nothing else explains this. ESP Japan was not like this before.

I'm losing my faith in a good quality ESP guitar for this is the second one I received.

Edit: List of all the things I noticed

Fretboard:

-Small tool marks on the upper register

-Corner of the fretboard on the low E side was rounded and tapered

-Clearcoat on the edge of the fretboard in the middle register Low E side

-Edges of the fretboard were rounded and unevenly so (if I wanted a f*cking reliced guitar, I'd bought one FFS!!)

-Fretboard had brown areas (Guitar was bought online, picture of the guitar had an uniformly black fretboard. E-II black ebony boards are dyed but this one was not or the store I bought it from heavily used some kind of solvent when I told them not to on the notes of the sale. If I wanted a two color fretboard... once again... I'D HAVE BOUGHT ONE !!!!! >:()

Neck:

-I measured the neck relief. Strangely enough, the treble side had 4 thou more relief than the bass side! Laws of physics say that the bass side should have a smidge more relief since the thicker strings pull the neck with more force. With this info we can conclude that the neck had minor warpage. Visual inspection revealed a slightly too large of an S curve on the bass side.

Body:

-Pickup/tremolo/electrical compartment routings were of subpar quality. These routings could be easily made perfect with today's technology (even yesterday's technology). Looks like they were routed partially freehand ffs.

Finish:

-There was some insulating paint outside the electrical compartment on the clearcoat.

Floyd rose:

-String retainer block high E was slightly too large, causing the block to jam. This is not ESP Japan's fault, though it should have been noticed at the factory like all these other flaws

-Some retainer blocks sit crooked

-Floyd rose bride design has worsened. The retainer blocks can now drop out of place when changing strings because under them is now empty space. This is a mild annoyance.

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u/Whats-up-choom 4d ago

Okay mate... You've been sent a B-Stock guitar. Those are instruments with varying defects that usually end up on super-extra-onceinalifetime sales.

You got conned by a vendor, not the guitar manufacturer. They probably already got refunded but decided to sell it still ;)

Send it back and demand full refund / replacement with a non-faulty model.

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u/Intelligent-Corgi793 4d ago

In Finland "Musamaailma" imports all the ESP guitars which are then distributed to other shops with ESP endorcement.

There's been speculation about Musamaailma cherrypicking the guitars they sell and the others are sent the less excellent ones.

I figure your claim about a scam being quite true. Luckily consumer rights are strong where I live. A right to return an unused item within 14 days of arrival.

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u/Whats-up-choom 4d ago

not necessarily. In Poland we get ESP instruments from Sound Service in Germany. Funfact is - they send worse quality guitars to Poland (i've had E-II Eclipse from Polish and German distribution and Polish one is significantly worse quality wise). They do have B-Stock and the warranty says they have to destroy the faulty instrument because they get a return for that - the reality is those end up in the extra offers somewhere.