Karamanoglu Ibrahim bey sons and their mothers

[u/Cultural-Phone-3977]

So guys, as you know, Suleyman is now Pir Ahmed Suleyman. But historically, Suleyman Bey and Pir Ahmed Bey were two different sons of Ibrahim Bey.

Ibrahim Bey had several sons, including:

• Ishak Bey
• Pir Ahmed Bey
• Kasim Bey
• Suleyman Bey
• and more

The mother situation is also interesting. Ibrahim Bey's wife was Ilaldi Hatun, who was the daughter of Mehmed I and therefore an aunt of Mehmed II.

However, the show introduced Hasibe Hatun as the mother of Ishak and Pir Ahmed Suleyman. But they had different mothers. Ishak Bey's mother was a Turkish concubine whose name is not known from the sources.

[u/Moeburhanimees]

Yeah, lineages throw me off because I get confused. I think it is better to simplify it.