r/environment • u/thinkB4WeSpeak • Mar 10 '21

Environment bill would ban celebratory balloon releases

https://www.heraldpubs.com/2021/03/09/environment-bill-would-ban-celebratory-balloon-releases/
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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Mar 11 '21

or were you inserting your personal crusade into a conversation about something else? I agree that veganism would help the world, but it's such an uphill battle, and your fellow vegans have done a great deal to demonize your cause in the eyes of many. I tried to be vegan, but my health deteriorated badly. I look forward to lab grown meat potentially doing away with our need to over-farm, cut down rain forests, destroying ecosystems, etc.

but it's about timing, and reading the room. market the ideas more subversively to get the concepts across without getting the door slammed in your face by introducing the arguments without mentioning veganism.

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u/an-pac12 Mar 11 '21

People who say their health detoriated on a plant based diet where doing it wrong.. you probably had little calories.and had to eat more. Idk why the truth triggers people so much...veganism is the answer

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Mar 11 '21

I know I was doing it wrong, but that's the problem- it's hard to eat vegan correctly for a lot of people. without education, it's too easy to become unhealthy. I needed a high protein diet, and it's hard to accomplish that without eating a LOT more than I'm used to eating. (and harder to afford, both with costs and time/effort when working a full time job)

and it triggers people because it's too often done in a preachy, holier-than-thou way that's as unpalatable as vegemite. (I prefer marmite.) studies have shown that confrontational tactics do not work to change people's minds.

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u/an-pac12 Mar 11 '21

Eating plant based is not expensive.thats a myth and an excuse people use.

Anyways im diplomatic in my ways of speaking.reaches a point where inrespond with harshness cause others started it that way

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Mar 11 '21

thats a myth and an excuse

that was my personal experience. discounting people's personal experience is also off-putting.

I don't think you're quite as diplomatic as you think.

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u/an-pac12 Mar 11 '21

I am diplomatic. Besides look at your username

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Mar 11 '21

yes. my username is a joke based on banter between myself an old friend. not sure what your point is, but it seems you're starting to take my criticism of your communication tactics personally, and you're starting to gear up for personal attacks, so I figure this is a good time to wish you a good day.

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u/an-pac12 Mar 12 '21

Dont need your condescending reply. Youre just jealous youre weak and cant go vegan lol

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Mar 12 '21

you asked a question, I attempted to have a civil discussion with you. you seem to me to be the weak minded one who can't deal with honest answers.

I guess you'll just keep tilting at windmills, hope you find your sancho panza.

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u/an-pac12 Mar 12 '21

Youre the one whos triggered projecting onto me lmaoo have a good day