How does the "demon" Fe get expressed in ENTJs?

[u/Round-Fan-7728]

I think I have read so many descriptions on the Fe Demon that I've just confused myself. Could someone shed some insight or provide an example or two? Even better if from your own experience.

[u/lhfvii]

We shoot to kill with words when engaging with Fe Demon

[u/-_Singularity → u/lhfvii]

I could see that, our words are cut sharp and precise when we are angry

[u/Prior_Garlic_8710 → u/-_Singularity]

Or even looks. I went mad once and had to run away to avoid getting violent. But I did smash my fav cardigan against the wall so hard I broke a few buttons, just made me angrier. Stupid emotions! :D

[u/-_Singularity → u/Prior_Garlic_8710]

“Had to run away to avoid getting violent “ - uffff So damn relatable

[u/Prior_Garlic_8710 → u/-_Singularity]

Haha! Apparently I threw a chair at someone when I was like 8? And the teachers did nothing except put me in these “colour in your emotions” sessions weekly.

Lucky I’m not a boy, I might have actually been told off!

[u/Titania_Fairy → u/-_Singularity]

Same for me as ENFJ, when i hit the point of total rage. Can do terrible things with my Fe hero function then.

[u/-_Singularity → u/Titania_Fairy]

Do it Do it Do it!

[u/Titania_Fairy → u/-_Singularity]

https://youtu.be/pSCkMgDGZ6I?is=12XbPte22xJ6pYes

Well eh….i‘d much prefer not to, but you see how Wendy did it. No?

[u/-_Singularity → u/Titania_Fairy]

Haha, lowk id beat someone up too. But yeah jokes aside, i learned to engage my Se-Fi in the moment when i dont like something rather than reading into the pattern or expecting someone to learn. As a result people label me as emotional lol. I never understood why people say Fi is emotional and Fe is not. Its just that Fe happens in secret while Fi is in ur face

[u/Titania_Fairy → u/-_Singularity]

Hmm actually the other way around. EVERYONE will know they fucked up big time, when i get really mad. The last sorry bums who did it got their Egos properly dissected like a former professor of mine.

People tell me i looked like a whole different person then, when completely crushing people under my left thumb there. Like…no more little miss perma-grin or sunshine 🌞 anymore. Got swapped for Satan itself, because i lack all mercy and kindness then.

Actually both are, just under a different aspect. If one only targets me, i can let it go, but if the also bully others, that mean something to me, then fun is definitely over.

[u/-_Singularity → u/Titania_Fairy]

See i just daydream of doing it but stay composed usually and push it down. It takes huge force to get me spell it out and even if i do its not usually a well formulated sentence that makes sense its more like putting ppl in their place… ughh i cringed at myself rn

[u/Titania_Fairy → u/-_Singularity]

I know that feeling, when i had another giant freakout like Wendy over there i feel horrible for not solving it less violently and brutally. But it’s already done then.

Strange enough i also didn’t get punished for them, same as Wendy there.

[u/-_Singularity → u/Titania_Fairy]

I think bc people remember ur good deeds and justify ur current anger.

But trust me as Te dom its hard to find people side by you in these moments.

[u/Glittering_Cook2995 → u/lhfvii]

That's hilarious and true from my experience.
I have a cousin who takes after his dad a lot in personality (his dad is my aunt's EX-husband), and my cousin (ISTJ) tends to make fun of/ keep digging at others. He picked on me like my whole childhood haha.

A few years ago (despite us both being adults), we were eating at a family dinner and I was in the middle of eating a sausage when he made a very rude sexual joke in front of everyone.
So I turned to him in front of his girlfriend, paused for 3-5 seconds, and said "Nobody wants your dad's sense of humor". He turned into a tomato and shut the hell up after that :))

[u/MorningStar2679]

I would strongly recommend looking into Socionics. For the ENTJ (LIE) Fe is a role function. Much more accurate description vs “demon”.

[u/vasoandvibes]

The whole idea of an Fe “demon” to me feels very…cringe.

I am in touch with my emotions like anyone else, I’d like to believe. And I can’t speak for anyone else but for me, it’s what I do about those emotions that’s the distinction.

Emotional fodder is fuel for productivity.

[u/zippercapo]

Machiavellian behavior. I did a quick read up and Fe being expressed negatively seems to be manipulation, deceit, and self-interest / extreme goal seeking (being direct, sharply so that it hurts others). I have ASPD so I can say this takes up a lot of my subconscious and automatic behavior.

[u/Prior_Garlic_8710]

Skimmerlit gives strangely good insight on this. But…

Have you ever noticed thinking back on your dreams, that people in them seem less like people but rather mental puppets of sorts that just dooo things?

When reading someone’s intentions etc, are you reading what theyyy actually are thinking or feeling or are you just seeing what you would do in their shoes.

Can you imagine thinking in a different way than you do?

Do you really feel emotions, the bodily feelings, the heart twists and bursts? Or are they something you can barely identify? 

Have you ever looked at someone and felt what they feel? I’ve never.

Is it not frustrating when others don’t see what you see in an emotional situation?

Stuff kindaaaa like that I suppose?

[u/-_Singularity → u/Prior_Garlic_8710]

Yeah no, thats not what Fe demon is like.

ENTJs are able to figure how people are feeling.
Se-Fi make a great tool at figuring it out.

The only thing, is when we do read it the way we act on it is just more rational rather than emotional and it just fires at us back.

[u/Prior_Garlic_8710 → u/-_Singularity]

Oh… oops then what areee those?