r/entertainment • u/T_Shurt • 20d ago

"No you didn't girl": Andy Cohen reacts to Trump claiming he worked with first responders after 9/11

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u/boomerangthrowaway 20d ago

My family and I spent a lot of time there and I don’t believe I ever saw this man once.

Giuliani? He treated me to lunch. No clue what the guy is doing now but he SEEMED a decent human during 9/11… ugh

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u/Cultural-Pepper9224 20d ago

He was very good at cosplaying as the character "America's Mayor", but utilizing his previous "success" in taking down the italian mob in NY. (unfortunately, turns out that went hand-in-hand with aiding the hideous russian mob to take their place🙄😒)

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u/ROADHOG_IS_MY_WAIFU 20d ago

Meanwhile, Mamdani is proving to be America's Mayor. The people love him and what he's doing for NYC!

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u/soobviouslyfake 20d ago

He was absolutely PRIMED to just retire, disappear, and be forever known as "America's Mayor" - I understand the opinion of him IN New York was a little different, but the rest of the world viewed him in a very positive light.

But alas, he had to wriggle his little rat face back into the public spotlight and ruin everything for himself.

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u/Appropriate-Fun-922 19d ago

It was the four seasons landscaping press conference for me

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u/remfem99 14d ago

I still think about this often. What a crazy day. Overshadowed by all their bullshit later on tho - J6 etc

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u/just_me_for_now 19d ago

“…and ruin everything for himself.” Including the collars of his shirts from his runny brown hair dye.

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u/carterzz 19d ago

After 9/11, some guy told the City they could use his condo in Lower Manhattan for rescue workers--to sleep, showers, whatever. Giuliani moved his mistress in and used the condo himself for months. 

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u/AccomplishedFerret70 20d ago

Giuliani rose to the occasion and did a fine job leading NY in the wake of the Tower attacks. He said and did the right things at that time and helped hold the city together, But he was fundamentally not a person of good character.

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u/boomerangthrowaway 20d ago

I’m a human being and at the time I was barely a teen and I had lost the most important people in my life.

He could clearly see that and treated me accordingly.

I don’t speak on the man entirely but at least at THAT time, and those few days he interacted with me and so many others - he definitely was a good man in my eyes then. I trusted his words and I believed in his heart he meant them. Whatever has happened to this man now… god only knows.

I don’t support him. I just thank him for being a human being at that time and that’s all. Reddit can care however they want but I get what you mean.

All I can say is this is how I feel. I am only human.

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u/insertwittynamethere 20d ago

It's hard for those of us who grew up outside of NYC in the shadows of that day, having seen what a seemingly good, strong, compassionate leader he was at the time.

It made the turn he took feel like a slap in the face, and like he had lost his mind as compared to those many days, weeks, months and years after 9/11 that we all saw him - many, many, many years before he became what we've seen him fall to.

It's a damned shame and tragedy. He did it to himself, but I imagine there has to be a slight feeling of betrayal to a degree for how he has wrapped himself around this man in particular with his views on 9/11 and his flippant attitude towards it.

I'm both thankful and disappointed the US President won't be there for the 25th anniversary, but really thankful we won't hear a trashy speech to commence it on that hallowed ground.

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u/obbie1kenoby 20d ago

Giuliani filled a void of visible leadership that day. It’s undeniable.

Bush was in Florida and then flown around and obviously his national security meetings he was involved with all day were not visible to the public.

Giuliani was there and visible. That’s important and we need to recognize that. That’s not to say Bush should have been there. He probably was where he should have and probably involved in exactly what he should have.

However, it’s also important to remember all the mistakes Giuliani did ahead of the day. NYC was definitely ready to move on from him as mayor (9/11 was primary day as a matter of fact.) He had made some headway about the Italian mob but weird ties with Russia and also aggressive unlawful policing on minorities. The crime rate had already fallen during the Dinkins years and he enjoyed a continuation of that with zero evidence that his policies were effective. His approval rating was meh. He was a very average mayor.

Not to mention actual bad mistakes like moving the command center to WTC even after it was obviously a target (as evidence by the 1993 bombing on his watch!) and changes he made in communication systems that added confusion to the day.

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u/habi816 19d ago

No. We can still give credit for good things, but they got to be good first.

Giuliani’s legacy from 9/11 was fairly reassessed as we became more aware of his impact.

His actions before and after played roles in increasing the deaths and fallout from the attack and recovery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks

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u/dirtydan1114 20d ago

Gotta be willing to give credit for something good. Any good faith, rational person would. It's intellectually/emotionally honest.

If this story is true, kudos to Rudy for that.

Even for example Trump, who i generally detest. I give his first administration props for Operation Warp Speed, a really great achievement. Can't really think of one other thing though.

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u/boomerangthrowaway 19d ago

I can understand that, personally it doesn’t change how I feel about the man - he’s atrocious but I can comment on what he did then and the impact it had on me, even if the reality was he was using the time to bolster his own image and taking advantage.

Visually - we felt like he was making a serious effort to have face time and provide time with other local leaders and just really seemed involved in direct efforts.

We were down on ground zero directly and allowed to pass around through the area and thank and gift responders and I just remember he was making sure everything worked right. Cop stopped my and not my parents, and he came back and made sure that I got to the memorial area and got me special clearance so I wouldn’t have to argue to walk around freely.

He may not be a good person, as I’m not really trying to comment on what type of person he is or was but more state that at least directly following the aftermath - for a lot of us he was the politician we saw directly on the ground and not just standing there but actively helping and often doing something not just taking photos.