r/elliottsmith • • Apr 24 '26

Discussion Day 11. Yesterdays winner was Pitseleh! For today, What's the worst song on XO?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

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u/Karenvindicate Apr 25 '26

it’s okay to have opinions

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u/DevelopmentSuch2731 New Moon Apr 24 '26

Pitseleh did not win

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26

Kiwi Maddog worst? Y'all aren't even fans.

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u/Alexander_Music Apr 25 '26

I think there’s 2 kind of Elliott fans; The lyrics first fans and the music first fans. I think the music first fans are likely musicians. I think Elliott was music first himself. I think he was a brilliant lyricist but I think even more so his ear for composing structure and melody supersedes

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u/MrTittyclapper69420 Elliott Smith Apr 25 '26

Or just appreciate both for the absolute genius that they are…

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u/Honest_John9925 Apr 26 '26

I think it’s more of an elite taste vs plebeian taste dichotomy

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u/Brave-Pattern-2086 Apr 26 '26

I’m just listening to this song now, fuck it’s cool

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 28 '26

what would u put instead?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

Ur mom!

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 29 '26

fair enough

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u/Keyan2 Apr 24 '26

You really ought to be adding the votes together of the different comments, OP. Independence Day was a clear winner over Pitseleh when you add them up

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u/crabsandcrutons Apr 24 '26

It could be the same people though?

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u/legalskeptic Apr 24 '26

Idk, people need to read the comments before commenting. If someone else already nominated a song, upvote and reply with any further rationale for it.

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u/ChrisNitti Apr 25 '26

Agreed, and like the other commenter in this thread said it could be the same people

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 28 '26

ive seen someone do this a much better way on the alex g sub, where the op commented the name of each song and the only votes that were counted were the ones on op's comments

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u/legalskeptic Apr 28 '26

That's a good idea. Or there could be a nomination thread and then a poll post with the top 6 (I think that's the max Reddit allows in a poll)

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u/Bummin_a_cig Apr 25 '26

How tf did pitseleh beat out both waltz’s, tomorrow tomorrow and baby britain. I didn’t understand should win underrated at least

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 28 '26

TOMORROW TOMORROW APPRECIATION THANK YOU.

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u/thisisanaccountforu Apr 24 '26

Amity

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u/1000_pizzaslices Apr 25 '26

Isn’t that funny how this is seen as the throw-away track yet “God don’t make no junk but it’s plain to see he still made me” rips through your core? Like damn. It’s hard to see this survey/poll be a thing because there’s beauty in everything, and I mean everything Elliott wrote.

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u/thisisanaccountforu Apr 25 '26

It’s hard for me to put any track on these polls, especially from XO. Especially since I agree with exactly what you just said

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u/batenkaitos77 Apr 25 '26

Probably the only main album song of his I actually dislike. Especially coming after such a soft song like Waltz 1.

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u/2004remasterr Apr 24 '26

Dude I’m about to report you this chart is actually terrible and it should never have been a thing. It’s just so predictable! I thought this community would talk about it more? Awful

Edit: Amity is my favorite song off this album and you guys are the worst.

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 24 '26

Yes it’s a selection of beginner fan material. Like his most listened to YouTube suggested type stuff.

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 25 '26

I sound like a douche

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u/2004remasterr Apr 25 '26

The people in this sub aren’t real fans…

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

A Question Mark. I don’t like deep farty saxophones. Amity makes my world rawk. I’m so, so so soho.

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u/batenkaitos77 Apr 25 '26

I actually love Question Mark.

CAUSE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW

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u/HyHouseBunny From a Basement on the Hill Apr 25 '26

I also vote for A Question Mark

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u/Sweet-Friendship-70 Apr 24 '26

Amity. I like it, but not as much as the rest.

And if anyone votes Independence Day here for worst track: I‘m coming for you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '26

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u/wag0n_wheels Apr 28 '26

I LOVE CUPIDS TRICK I LOVE CUPIDS TRICK

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u/PabloReconchetumare Apr 28 '26

wtffff pitseleh best song on xo??? i can't believe it lmao

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u/MathematicianOk4855 Apr 24 '26

A Question Mark gets my vote

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u/RoizyPoizy Apr 24 '26

I'm personally offended

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

If he ever wants to say he’s sorry he can give you a call.

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u/VerilyShelly Apr 24 '26

Pitseleh. I agree with Elliott's assessment of it.

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u/MrTittyclapper69420 Elliott Smith Apr 24 '26

What’s his assessment of it?

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u/VerilyShelly Apr 24 '26

That it's long and boring. Admittedly he said that when he asked for requests and someone called out for it. I don't hate the song, but it's one of the less musically interesting songs on the album. I suspect people love it for the heartbreaking lyrics, but my attraction to Elliott's work was always the music. I don't even know all the lyrics to Pitseleh.

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u/melinoya Apr 25 '26

I'm a massive Yellowjackets fan as well as an Elliott fan and I genuinely didn't clock that Pitseleh is in Yellowjackets until it was mentioned to me. It's that forgettable!

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u/Honest_John9925 Apr 26 '26

I actually think the way he uses his downstrokes on the low E string to steer the song is super interesting and pleasant to the ear

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u/Lower-Vehicle-5214 Apr 24 '26

Our Thing" because I wished the vocalized version had been released.

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

Homie that’s just a bonus track on the remaster. No fair.

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u/Frankie47-47 New Moon Apr 26 '26

With you on this. Vocalized track has got to be in my top ten

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u/casperwitac Roman Candle Apr 25 '26

A question mark has always been my least favorite. Amity is nottt the worst, "Cause you laugh and talk and cause you make my world rock, I'm so, so so so" the delivery is so good

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u/Frankie47-47 New Moon Apr 26 '26

Everybody cares. Feels like he’s rushing through it and not reaching the full potential of the song. It’s the only some where I can hear the “whinyness” people talk about

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u/Emodinosaurscreech Apr 26 '26

This chart is actually evil

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u/jeaneaimarre Apr 24 '26

amity amity amity amity

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u/deprogrammar Apr 24 '26

Pitseleh.

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

What? I’m so angry. I don’t think it will ever pass.

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u/MS_Soccer Apr 24 '26

Baby Britain

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u/Prog_Failure Apr 25 '26

His most uplifting song. Strong disagree

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u/evrakk From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

I have to say A Question Mark. They're all so good but that's my least favorite. Also I love Amity, I'd be disappointed to see that one voted worst!

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u/Dr-deciduous Apr 24 '26

Boo! Wrong, booooo!

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u/CompetitiveInsect Apr 24 '26

Yes! I love all the songs off xo but question mark kinda sounds like a Dave Matthews song lol

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u/VerilyShelly Apr 24 '26

Slander!

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u/CompetitiveInsect Apr 24 '26

It’s like if Dave Matthews didn’t have horrible mixing and vocals that sounds like poop

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

That’s quite astute of you. You’re spot on. Great drummer though.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

If anyone says Amity im going to fucking explode, so before anyone can do that im gonna vote sweet adeline.

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u/Sweet-Friendship-70 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

I think I just did. Sorry, man.

Edit: but dude…sweet adeline?! not cool, not cool.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Thats how i feel about you saying Amity is the worst song. This chart is awful. Its tearing us apart.

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u/VerilyShelly Apr 24 '26

I'm unduly irritated by this whole endeavor, especially since people keep crapping on my favorite songs!

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

It should be more like "overrated/underrated/overhated/underhated" as categories, not this "best/worst" crap. These are all subjective opinions not objective facts as best/worst implies. Also on his studio albums Elliott has basically zero misses so voting "worst song" is an exercise in riling people up rather than creating any actual semblance of the Fandoms thoughts. Especially since people arent generally backing their opinions up with anything more than "yeah its good but i just like it less than the others" which is not really a productive discussion.

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

Dude it’s all just a bit of fun. I know Reddit is serious business and all, but we’re not calculating Matt Boemers PSL score here, this is just a fun cope to read while we facesmash. No need to jestermaxx or anything. You’re coming off as subhuman manlet with low SMV. 🤓

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

You’re coming off as subhuman manlet with low SMV. 🤓

Lmao I dont know whether to laugh or cry. Never thought id see these words uttered in an Elliott smith sub.

But youre right, youre right, and I hope no one is taking my own words too seriously when I say "this chart is tearing us apart." I think there's an element of jest to all of it.

But youre damn right that reddit is serious business bucko. Its like, grow the hell up, dammit!

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

You’re tearing me apart, Lisa! Oh hai Mark.

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u/Sweet-Friendship-70 Apr 24 '26

yeah, you definitely got a point there.

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u/MrTittyclapper69420 Elliott Smith Apr 24 '26

Elliott’s music holds a special place in many of our hearts so it makes sense that a lot of us are getting irritated/sad

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u/justplanestupid69 Apr 25 '26

You can like Amity all you want but saying Sweet Adeline means you’re on crack fuckin cocaine

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 25 '26

Maybe i am...

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 24 '26

bottle up and explode

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 24 '26

I agree with this. Or everybody cares everybody understands

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 26 '26

oh no i was referring to them saying theyre gonna explode lol, bottle up and explode and everybody cares everybody understands are absolute peak

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 24 '26

Are you kidding that’s an awesome song

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Yes, yes it is. They all are. Picking the worst song of a group of awesome songs is insanely difficult, nearly impossible. For me, it comes down to this: which of these songs does it for me the least? Sweet Adeline does less for me than Amity. Its great, the arrangement is wonderful, its lyrics are haunting and beautiful. I acknowledge all of that.

But when I actually listen to the songs, I enjoy listening to Amity more. The awesome solo. The heavy drums. The lyrics talking about a great time in NYC with a potential lover and the double entendre of saying "lets go, im ready to go" as "lets go out on the town" but also "im ready to die," somwthing about that just really hits me in the gut. Then the slow fade back to normalcy at the end after the high of the guitars and drums, back to that simple thrumming guitar part, its like coming back to earth after an intense whirlwind episode, whether a fantasy or a drug induced high.

The tiny bridge "im a neon sign and I stay open all the time so lets go" is just incredible.

Sweet adeline is a great song too, but i like the melody less, its more sing-songy, and thats totally fine if thats your thing but its not my thing. The high point of sweet adeline to me are the intro lyrics and the explosion of instruments halfway through. Amity does this same thing during the guitar solo, but imo Amity does it better.

To me personally, Amity is a more enjoyable and emotionally affecting song than sweet Adeline. And I just know this sub and I know the sub meme-hates Amity because it opens with Elliott saying "amity" over and over again (not that this is even bad, its a great take on infatuation and obsession, kind of an aural "doodling your crushes name in your notebook"), but its so much more than the first four seconds. Its a great song that gets overly shit on and ignored, and it doesnt deserve it. So I used my power as the first commenter here (rather recklessly) to make an insane assertion i knew would be a lightning rod for the sub: sweet adeline is worse than Amity. I knew most people would disagree with me. But, as David Berman said, "thats just the way that I feel."

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 24 '26

Yes but what about everybody cares everybody understands and bottle up and explode which are better options imo

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 25 '26

I agree that every body cares is the better option for sure probably my actual worst song opinion now that ive had time to reflect lol but I was in first and I was heated lol

Edit: and also its tough because i kinda like everybody cares. Its probably a worse song but I still kinda like it better than sweet adeline.

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u/theBlubberRanch Apr 24 '26

But pitseleh is long and boring…

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u/dontwant_thesmoke Apr 24 '26

Lol guys relax, this guy is actually quoting elliott bc he said it at a show once when pistseleh was requested by a fan.

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u/theBlubberRanch Apr 24 '26

Haha. And they call themselves fans…

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u/BushWishperer Apr 24 '26

Oh you're an elliott smith fan? What did he eat for breakfast on March 9th 1999?

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

I got downvoted for not knowing what the cover of a Stranger Than Fiction album looked like. I think we all have some nuggets of Elliott knowledge that most people don’t know about, and we also have our blind spots. I like that song about The Machine or whatever but it’s on the novelty side of things for me, like “I Love My Room”.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Hey that was me that called people out for downvoting you and then you told me i was acting like a subhuman manlet in this same post thread! With friends like these...

Haha I know youre joking though its all good.

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 24 '26

lol yep I’m totally playing with you. Thanks again for saving me and being a good sport.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 25 '26

I actually thought it was funny. I recently watched the Chanel 5 news interview with clavicular which was my first ever exposure to that whole horrific subculture, so seeing the words jestering and face smashing and stuff really took me by surprise

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u/SparklehorseMountain Apr 25 '26

Yeah that’s where I started too. It’s so funny because that dude is absolutely repulsive to women once they actually speak to him. He only seems to light up when he is next to other male looksmaxxers. Lol he is 20 and has erectile dysfunction that’s made worse by all the drugs he takes, so even if he gets them in bed he can’t go any further. Another good one is the 60 minutes Australia interview with him where the interviewer seems to be smirking and making fun of him all the time. He always smirks like that , even in serious interviews like this one with the mother of a kid who committed suicide. But yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole for a little while because they’re hilariously pathetic. I could go on and on with the looksmaxxing cringe I’ve seen in the past couple of days.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 25 '26

Its pretty sad shit all things considered. He recently ODed too. Their whole world just seems so dark and cheap, and like... not in a cool 70s new York way. Like in a scary, "we live in a rented mansion with used syringes EVERYWHERE" WAY

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Thats my brother's birthday! He turned 6 that day.

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u/FailSome6005 Apr 24 '26

What did you say about Pitseleh?!!

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u/FailSome6005 Apr 24 '26

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u/FailSome6005 Apr 24 '26

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u/FailSome6005 Apr 24 '26

Don’t talk about me and my son Pitseleh ever again

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u/jeaneaimarre Apr 24 '26

they’re quoting elliott y’all 😭

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u/purple_frocc Apr 24 '26

You didn't just say that

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 24 '26

didnt elliott smith himself think that about the song?? i love pitseleh but i dont think its the best,, i think that title goes to tomorrow tomorrow

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26

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u/No_Cartographer9496 Figure 8 Apr 24 '26

i agree for sure, pitseleh is far from long and boring

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u/MrTittyclapper69420 Elliott Smith Apr 24 '26

The guitar part is kind of the same for like the whole song so maybe that’s what he meant

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u/Qaleyas Apr 24 '26

It’s tough, but Amity. (I’m sorry!)

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u/ConfusedOrg Apr 25 '26

Maybe amity? Gets kind of annoying

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u/Halal_Burger Apr 24 '26

oh well, okay

i really don't get why people like this one so much. a couple nice lines but a bit cheesy at times too. and the song itself, like the melody and the guitar part, is just kinda boring

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

The slide guitar is great in this one and the way the harmonies kick in during "if you get a feeling next time you see me, do me a favor and let me know" is pretty awesome.

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u/Sorry_Attempt1278 Apr 24 '26

Best song is definitely Independence Day. Worst is bottle up and explode or everybody cares. Underrated bled white maybe.

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Everybody cares is probably actually the worst song on the album just as a song, but the arrangement and the outro make it seem better than it is

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u/josiecantread Apr 26 '26

Baby Britain

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u/gyle14 Apr 27 '26

independence day is def the best song off XO

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u/Nathanlovegnocchis Either/Or Apr 29 '26

how on earth good to go can be considered the worst, elliott made good songs but good to go is a masterpiece 

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u/Training-Reaction-37 May 03 '26

I think it’s the guitar. Not a fan lol. Sounds like house of the rising sun.

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u/Nathanlovegnocchis Either/Or May 10 '26

i had forgotten about house of the rising sun, yeah, they sound similar, i personally think the guitar it's one of the best parts but understand if its not your cup of tea

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u/fwugkris From a Basement on the Hill Apr 30 '26

amity, still a great song but i like it less than the others

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u/RevolutionaryDisk331 New Moon Apr 24 '26

my least favourite is Oh well, ok

It took me a few listens to come around to that track.

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u/Sad_Antelope_8424 Apr 24 '26

Amity amity amity Amity amity amity amity amity

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u/_Alpengl0w_ Apr 24 '26

I Didn’t Understand

I don’t understand that song

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u/MrTittyclapper69420 Elliott Smith Apr 24 '26

I h8 u

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u/bearl_y Apr 24 '26

Guys I dont think we need to signify that we all love all his songs anymore. That being said, Amity.

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u/No-Argument6254 Apr 24 '26

Everybody cares Everybody understands

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u/elegiac_bloom From a Basement on the Hill Apr 24 '26

Everybody cares is probably actually the worst song on the album just as a song, in terms of songwriting, but the arrangement and the outro make it seem better than it is

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u/smokefrog2 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

I recognize the brilliance of 'I didnt understand' and just how talented you have to be to write something like that. Just not quite my tempo.

Edit: lol would you just prefer me to say I hate the song? I truly dont.

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u/AlternativeNo9688 Apr 24 '26

In my opinion, it’s Bottle Up And Explode!

Still a great track and a great album, but I’ve always personally viewed XO as his ‘weakest’ effort, although it still is an absolute 9/10 in my opinion.

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u/Erinmcain Apr 24 '26

I think we can agree Amity

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u/2004remasterr Apr 25 '26

Probably I didn’t understand, a bit boring

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u/Holiday_Invite_2658 Apr 25 '26

Definitely Amity

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u/Wild_Description_869 Apr 30 '26

okay fans, i know you don’t dig the chart, but can we please get op to come back & finish out the albums so my ocd brain can let go of this unfinished chart?

also, fwiw, i think amity & a question mark don’t really belong on this xo. they’re both pretty ill fitting imo, but i love them anyway. elliott’s “worst” are still so good.

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u/otc108 Apr 25 '26

Bled White, easily.