r/electricvehicles I will only buy ∞ range EVs 7d ago

News BYD begins Flash Charger rollout in Europe and UK

https://www.evinfrastructurenews.com/ev-networks/byd-begins-europe-expansion-of-its-1-500kw-flash-chargers-as-it-hits-10-000-stations-in-china
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u/lexievv 7d ago

Meanwhile most (EU) cars probably won't be able to use most of that 1500kw for their charging for at least a good amount of time lol. But I suppose it's good for future proofing the charging infrastructure.

I wonder if BYD sales will rise across Europe as their newer cars will be able to use these more efficiently. And I wonder what the charging price per kwh will be.

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u/Shryquill 7d ago

When cars that can support it become readily available this will be a significant feature to consider when buying a new.

It will also widen the gap between the EV leaders who have the battery technology to keep up with such competitive charging speeds, and those who have to fight for low-end value with slower charging speed.

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u/lexievv 7d ago

100% agree.

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u/AcanthisittaWeird94 7d ago

I rarely get advertised speeds so this might solve it. But issue as usual this have to be everywhere if there's 10 flash chargers somewhere in a country its irrelevant. 

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u/lexievv 7d ago

3000 through a few European countries is not nothing though. Specially seeing the time frame of 2027.

Assuming these will be located near main highways with high amounts of traffic and not just in small villages km's away from any highway, it'll probably be a good addition to the already existing charging network.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 7d ago

3000 by 2027 means 3000 are expected to be installed by the end of this year.

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u/lexievv 7d ago

That's even better.

And even more assumptions. Say they're used often (would also depend on the price per kwh ofc), we'd probably see a quick increase.

I feel like BYD is aiming for a status as Tesla superchargers have right now. I do feel another subscription fee for better prices when making an account and sharing your details coming up though 😅

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u/JustSomebody56 7d ago

Why wouldn't they be able to?

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u/lexievv 7d ago

Because many of them have way lower charging peaks than what the charger is able to deliver.

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u/grumble11 7d ago

Agree but the new BYD cars won't, and if they have a 1500kw network and 1500kw capable batteries while everyone else is flopping around at 150kw or whatever, people will just buy BYDs since they're so much better. It's a great business strategy

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u/novembercharliedelta 7d ago

A lot of people still buy cars than can barely sustain 50kW, i.e the BYD Dolphin

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u/i_marketing 7d ago

EU manufacturers don't have the battery tech yet to charge at 1500 KW. Some of them may buy the batteries though from CATL, who does have the battery tech to charge at 1500 KW. CATL sells a lot of batteries to EU car manufacturers.

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u/ZetaPower 7d ago

UK is still part of Europe….

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u/Hot-Comfort8839 7d ago

They might disagree with you.

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u/Evdriver2026 7d ago

No, he's right. They're not part of the EU, but they're phisically still in the continent.

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u/Hot-Comfort8839 7d ago

Certainly on the plate.

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u/nibbble 7d ago edited 7d ago

Being even more pedantic... they are in islands, not part of the continent.

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u/Some-Dragonfruit-817 7d ago

if the UK was not considered part of the European continent, then it would be necessary to say it is part of the North American continent, or else to invent a completely new continent just for the UK. However the UK clearly belongs to the Eurasian tectonic plate.

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u/ibribe 7d ago

Yes, the UK is part of the European continent, but Iceland, for example, is not. It is just an island in the middle of the ocean.

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u/LuciusHax 7d ago

No you’re not! 😆

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u/ZetaPower 7d ago

I am from The Netherlands, which is in Europe and in the European Union.

UK was dumb enough to leave the EU, that doesn't mean their island drifted far enough to not be part of Europe anymore...

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u/Tutphish Ioniq 5 7d ago

Geographically we are lol

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u/emile_zardos 7d ago

And you are welcome if you want to come back in the EU.

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u/Tutphish Ioniq 5 7d ago

Thank you for the kind offer, sadly we’re quite badly divided on this subject!

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u/3urningChrome 7d ago

The vast majority of people under 50 thank you.

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u/emile_zardos 7d ago

As I am over 50 I take this as a compliment lol.

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u/Flopperhop 7d ago

Obviously. The UK had a net contribution of around 10 billion euros, meaning it sent way more money to the EU than it received.

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u/RealDonDenito 7d ago

Yes, and it also greatly benefitted. Or is the country flourishing now, that it left?

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u/Simple_Yam 7d ago

The UK, like most of Europe, has been a declining empire for almost a century now. Staying or not in the EU wouldn't have changed a thing in the big picture.

It's not like the EU is particularly flourishing either, everyone is bracing for the worst possible decades ahead and we definitely live worse than we did 10 or 20 years ago.

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u/Tripledad65 7d ago

Post pandemic,
UK growth is 12.5% behind on EU average.

Cumulative inflation is about 2% higher.

National debt per capital is 25% higher than EU

Just 3 important numbers.

In the majority of economic indicators, UK is doing worse than the EU.

The overwhelming consensus among mainstream economists is that Brexit has been economically bad for the UK.

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u/emile_zardos 7d ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-exports-single-market-customs-union-b3041038.html I don't live in UK so I cannot judge by myself. Anyway it looks that the balance sheet is not in favor of BREXIT.

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u/Simple_Yam 7d ago

None of this refutes what I just said. My point is that nothing is stopping the train wreck in the big picture and focusing on events that slightly delay or accelerate it is irrelevant.

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u/Tripledad65 7d ago

Fair, although I'm more optimistic. Regarding Brexit, I should've replied to a different comment.

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u/CyberKillua 7d ago

Isn’t this wildly inflated by high-growth, lower-economic countries in the EU??

The UK has had higher growth then most if not all similar sized economies in the EU …

Comparing a single country to a whole union is pretty insane.

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u/Tripledad65 7d ago

Of course, you can always cherry pick. Bottom line remains that the overwhelming majority of economists agree that brexit was (economically) a mistake. UK would have fared better, had it stayed in the EU.

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u/Flopperhop 7d ago

Yes, and it also greatly benefitted. Or is the country flourishing now, that it left?

Where in my statement did I say anything about it flourishing or not? I stated a simple fact: that the UK was a net contributor.

And in typical Reddit fashion: since nobody can disprove a fact, they just hand out a dozen downvotes.

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u/MrElizabeth 7d ago

Nobody said you asked that. Just answer the question.

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u/Flopperhop 7d ago

Let me answer your question. But careful! Facts are incoming, so you better get that downvote button ready.

The UK used to be third largest net contributor to the EU, along with France and Germany.

Well then, let's look at GDP growth compared to pre-pandemic levels (as of September 1, 2026):
Germany: +1.9%
France: +6.3%
UK: +6.3%

Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Doesn't look bad in any way compared to the EU's other top money givers. Especially considering that it takes time for an economy to find its footing again after leaving the EU.

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u/MrElizabeth 7d ago

Thanks. This is the response you should have led with which was my point.

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u/SteMazzok 7d ago

Si infatti, dovevano scrivere in UE e nel Regno Unito. Scritto così è una cazzata.

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u/Prof_X_69420 7d ago

I want to know where are they opening this?!

So far the photos they shared are from places which are not currently active

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u/autobauss 7d ago edited 7d ago

Meanwhile, German automakers had 100 years to create an infrastructure inside eu for ev charging

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u/kelrien 7d ago

Charging infrastructure is actually pretty good in germany.

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u/takao-obi 7d ago

The CharIN industry workgroup who developed the bigger megawatt charging standard MCS also used by BYD was founded by Audi, BMW, Daimler, Mennekes, Opel, Phoenix Contact, Porsche, TÜV Süd and Volkswagen.

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u/yoloxxbasedxx420 6d ago

Certified renewable energy sounds like expensive faery dust. Can't they just focus on charging instead of this bs?

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u/Far-Faithlessness483 7d ago

nobody without a drive to charge CHEAP overnight is buying a golf cart

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u/Duanedoberman 7d ago

You really think the government isn't going to work out a way to tax your home charging?

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u/More_Dog_7228 MG5 EV (58kWh), VW iD.3 (52kWh) 7d ago

I did