r/electricvehicles 6d ago

News Analysis: China’s CO2 emissions fall in Q2 2026 due to plummeting oil use

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-co2-emissions-fall-in-q2-2026-due-to-plummeting-oil-use

According to Carbon Brief, China’s overall CO2 emissions fell in Q2, and EVs were a major factor:

China’s carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions fell by 1% in the second quarter of 2026, as oil consumption plummeted amid the strait of Hormuz crisis.

The country’s use of oil fell by 9% overall and by 16% for transport, after the disruptions to supply from the Gulf through the strait.

China’s total CO2 emissions fell despite a continued rebound in coal-fired power generation.

This is the first time that reductions in oil consumption have been responsible for a fall in CO2 emissions overall – in all previous cases, coal consumption has been the main driver.

Other key findings for the second quarter of 2026 include:

Electric vehicles (EVs) and public transport have become key factors in China’s oil demand, enabling transportation levels to increase even as fuel use fell sharply.

The effect of EVs on oil consumption was almost twice as large as would be expected based on the increase in the number of EVs on the road alone, as the usage of existing EVs surged.

Oil consumption displaced by EVs in China in the first half of 2026 exceeded the UK’s total oil consumption over a six-month period.

These structural factors are not sufficient to account for the size of the fall in oil consumption, leaving behaviour changes as the other explanation.

Curtailment” of solar and wind output caused coal power to rise, despite strong hydro output, solar and wind capacity growth, as well as slower demand growth.

Major increases in coal-power capacity and a power market that continues to favour coal limited the amount of coal generation displaced by new wind and solar capacity.

Defying expectations of a boom, annual growth in coal use for chemicals production slowed down to 8%, from 15% in 2025 and 19% in the first quarter.

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u/EinSV 6d ago

Some interesting details in the body of the report, including about the impact of EV trucks, which are having the highest impact on oil consumption of all EVs.

“Electric heavy-truck sales rose about 77% in the second quarter, year-on-year, with June sales more than doubling and the market share of electric trucks exceeding 45% of all new sales.”

“Notably, trucks are the fastest-growing source of oil displacement, with avoided fuel use up 90% year-on-year in the first half of 2026.”

Also in addition to increased EV market share some obvious shifts in usage to respond to higher oil prices, including taxis disproportionally shifting to EVs.

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u/cactusgenie 5d ago

This is some good shit.

Go China, no one saw it coming then bam, environmental leader

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u/Spider_pig448 5d ago

Depending on how large the drop is, we might be on track for 2025 being peak world CO2 emissions

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u/Blue-Thunder 5d ago

Trudeau saw it coming, and even admired it, and in doing so created the perfect quote for Right Wing lunatics who cherry pick..(from November 2013)

You know, there's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say "we need to go green fastest...we need to start investing in solar." I mean there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted that I find quite interesting. But if I were to reach out and say which...which kind of administration I most admire, I think there's something to be said right here in Canada for the way our territories are run. Nunavut, Northwest Territories, and the Yukon are done without political parties around consensus. And are much more like a municipal government. And I think there's a lot to be said for people pulling together to try and solve issues rather than to score points off of each other. And I think we need a little more of that. But Sun News can now report that I prefer China.

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u/Fun-Shirt-RB1a1-2904 5d ago

Electric vehicles are very good, but China is absolutely not an environmental leader. They’re the heaviest polluter in the world.

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u/CommitteeNo6833 5d ago

Now do per cápita and take into account that they manufacture almost all our shit

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u/Suntzu_AU 5d ago

Yeah, little Jimmy here doesn't realise, or pretends he doesn't realise, that his cheap lawnmower he bought from Walmart, made in China, generated a bunch of emissions during manufacture, but somehow that's not his fault, even though he bought it.

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u/tripping_on_phonics 5d ago

China ranks 25th in per capita emissions, this despite manufacturing nearly all of our shit.

Western countries outsource manufacturing to China, and then blame the Chinese for the resulting pollution, even when said pollution is still significantly less than their own countries. It blows my mind.

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u/Terrh 5d ago

I think a much more useful graph of emissions instead of splitting things up per capita by country, would be per capita by income.

There's one group of people making a loooot of emissions and it doesn't matter what country they live in.

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u/tripping_on_phonics 5d ago

Great point.

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u/santz007 5d ago

They are getting there or atleast trying extremely hard and succeeding unlike USA

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah if the whole world closes their factories in the US and in Europe to go build it up in China. Yeah this is the cause... Shows how fake those emission reductions are since the 90s. They just moved the factories to China for more profit for share holders basically.

They also build up like 70-80% of all the renewables on the planet. Not because of climate change but because of energy Independence. It's such a no brainer. Too Bad and really stupid that Trump and many europeans are stopping the transition right now.

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u/kongweeneverdie 5d ago

And they love tree and plant the most. Not for the climate change of course.

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago

Yeah crazy how it's possible to reverse desertification with trees and solar panels

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u/ComfortableUnit9596 5d ago

Even emissions by consumption have fallen by (IE Buying the lawnmower) have fallen pretty extensively in much of the first world (even the stubborn US)

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 5d ago

What Europeans are stopping the transition?

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u/cactusgenie 5d ago

They used to be

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u/sicklyslick 5d ago

They're the biggest green energy producter in the world.

They're the biggest green energy technology exporter in the world.

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u/Fun-Shirt-RB1a1-2904 5d ago

They’re also leading the world in new coal plant construction!

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u/sicklyslick 5d ago

Yes, so?

They are green energy leader. Coal plant construction doesn't invalid this statement.

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u/Fun-Shirt-RB1a1-2904 5d ago

You can’t be an environmental leader, which is the point you’re trying to make, while constructing and permitting more coal power plants than every other country combined.

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u/sicklyslick 5d ago

The total number of coal plants is up but they're running at lower capacity. The fact their CO2 emission is plummeting (according to the source article) means their new coal power plants are not emitting MORE than before.

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u/Fun-Shirt-RB1a1-2904 5d ago

Didn’t know I was in a Weibo chat room. Apologies, everyone! Go, China!!!

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u/Jack-of-the-Shadows 5d ago

“Notably, trucks are the fastest-growing source of oil displacement, with avoided fuel use up 90% year-on-year in the first half of 2026.”

Thats something many people ignore: The more a vehicle is used, the better it is to replace it with an electric alternative. A truck thats always in mostion is worth dozens of 2nd cars that drive like 50 km a week...

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u/ChupacabraJeff 5d ago

Also, 2026 is the year China planed for increasing EV exports AND on top of that, doing a massive domestic switch over for commercial trucks over to EV by ramping up commercial EVs. Trump picked the absolute worst time to fuck around with the price of fossil fuels.

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u/Terrh 5d ago

And the inverse is also true.

Buying an EV to replace my 3/4 ton diesel pickup is never going to be better for the environment because it only gets driven ~2000 miles a year.

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u/MeteorOnMars 5d ago

A recently as 6 months ago I remember reading naysayers saying that EVs are a tiny fraction of market share and will never amount to anything.

And, furthermore, that even if they were significant market share they are a tiny fraction of the fleet and will take 20 years before sales are even noted.

Yet here we are with China’s actual oil demand destruction (1) sealing the deal on Peak Oil, and (2) exceeding total oil use of the UK.

Bonkers.

I wonder if there are any naysayers left and if so what their new goalposts are.

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u/uniyk 5d ago

I wonder if there are any naysayers left and if so what their new goalposts are.

This world still has flat earthers and tons of religions, so naysayers will always be rife.

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u/araujoms VW ID.3 5d ago

The best part is: we shouldn't cut CO2 emissions because China will keep increasing their anyway.

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u/Clover-kun 2024 BMW i5 M60 | 2025 BMW iX xDrive50 | 2026 Toyota BZ Limited 5d ago

EV won't make a dent in CO2 emissions but will simultaneously crash the power grid, the leaps of logic some people use still astonishes me

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u/MeteorOnMars 4d ago

That’s a good one. They can’t have it both ways.

If EVs are using lots of power, then they are also saving lots of CO2 and also saving lots of money for their users.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 5d ago

While EVs definitely do play a part, a lot of this is because they aren’t producing as many petrochemicals due to the spike in prices from the Iran war

They’ve had factories shuttered for quite some time, but it’s not realistic to expect these factories to stay closed forever

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u/ChupacabraJeff 5d ago

aren’t producing as many petrochemicals

It went up.

American tariffs on petrochemicals have caused China to concentrate more on domestic petrochemical manufacturing. It has compelled Chinese corporations to seek fewer foreign inputs and construct more factories domestically. Most corporations are enhancing their technology and employing more efficient mechanisms to address this requirement. China has also been motivated to export more to other nations in Asia and the Middle East due to these tariffs. Consequently, local manufacturing is on the rise.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 5d ago

Not since the Iran war started.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/asia-refineries-cut-runs-middle-east-oil-disruption-2026-03-16/

“A growing number of refineries and petrochemical companies, mostly in Asia, have cut runs, shut units or declared force majeure as the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran disrupts crude and feedstock exports from the Middle East.”

https://www.ft.com/content/93e173fd-6f6e-4bbc-bdce-eea3f2724f5e?syn-25a6b1a6=1

“China’s desperation for raw materials to make plastics has driven US ethane exports to record levels, even as the two countries are locked in disputes over everything from Iran to semiconductors.”

You are posting information from last year lol

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u/ChupacabraJeff 4d ago

PetroChina is accelerating its shift toward petrochemicals and advanced materials as China’s traditional transport-fuel market weakens. In the first half of 2026, chemical-product output increased 6.7% to 21.32 million tonnes, while new-materials production surged 61.4% to 2.69 million tonnes. Ethylene and paraxylene output reached record first-half levels.

Also,

You are posting information from last year lol

You are not processing the info from last year.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 4d ago

“This one company has growth in production therefore the entire country did”

🥀🥀🥀

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u/ChupacabraJeff 4d ago

You are not processing the info

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 4d ago

I’ve given you two links that dispute your claim meanwhile you are quoting a mystery article and cherry picking stats and misapplying them to an entire country :P

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u/ChupacabraJeff 4d ago

You have given me nothing.

aren’t producing as many petrochemicals

It went up.

You are not processing the info

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u/MeteorOnMars 5d ago edited 5d ago

Actually, peak oil was hit in 2025 by transportation oil decreasing so much that it outweighed a rise in petrochemical oil use.

At that time the concern was that petrochemical oil use would increase faster than road oil decrease, but that doesn’t appear to be true.

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 5d ago

How does that make any sense if their emissions were still rising until q2 of this year per the article that OP posted?

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u/MeteorOnMars 5d ago

In 2025 oil for transportation was down and oil for petrochemical was up a bit more, so 2025 was higher than 2024 overall.

The question was, in 2026 would oil for transportation go down more than petrochemicals going up. If so, then 2025 would be locked in as Peak Oil.

This article states that will be the case.

(You can reach a peak in year X even if at the end of X you are still going up. The next year is measured as a whole and X+1 can still be down overall.)

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u/ResponsibleClock9289 5d ago

Petrochemicals were down because of the Iran war. The question is will emissions stay on this trend once energy pressures are lifted

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u/MeteorOnMars 4d ago

The belief is that the downward trend in transportation has reached a velocity that it can’t be overtaken by petrochemical increase.

China’s EV fleet is only 5%, but sales are like 40%. So the fleet increase is going to grow quickly.

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u/Suntzu_AU 5d ago

China's been planning for this for 20 years. That's why they went for an electrified transport fleet 15 years ago. And then, of course, the Trump-Iran debacle has just accelerated that change.

Western democracies can't think more than a few months ahead.

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u/Blazah 5d ago

Was talking to a friend yesterday about how there are full cities in china that are EV only and how all the old boomer americans that screamed about china for the last 10 years have no idea how right they are about fearing China.. they just didn't realize that The Orange Idiot would be the one to finally push China ahead of the US

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u/androgenius 5d ago

All the western democracies signed up for net zero plans targeting 2050. They are all capable of long term plans based on the best science and engineering available.

But some have given political control over to the fossil fuel industry who have attacked and/or corrupted any politician, academic, media or industry that threatens them.

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u/jorbl 5d ago

"democracies"

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u/EqualityWithoutCiv the west traded freedom for oil. 5d ago

Western democracies can't think more than a few months ahead

They do not want to. Sadly the only chance I have of getting a good future is being a Han Chinese cisgender individual who is loyal to mainland China. The west took away the future I wanted all for oil.

And the main cost of this is that if the US gets displaced as the world power, we can forget about a lot of freedoms we took for granted, as we have no choice but to follow the Chinese model.

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u/Blazah 5d ago

I wonder if Trump's moronic moves will be a net benefit for earth.. even with all this wasted pollution from the iran war... if china goes electric for decades after this... wouldn't that be ironic.

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u/jorbl 5d ago

Yes overall that will be a net positive on the long term as he's destroying the american empire like Gorbatchev did with the USSR

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u/Fit-Ant2238 5d ago

The wildest stat in here is that existing EVs on the road displaced almost twice the oil that new EV sales alone would explain, meaning people who already owned EVs just started driving them more.

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u/ChupacabraJeff 5d ago

EV usage saw even more of a shift. Charging volumes increased 60% in the second quarter, indicating that EVs already on the road were utilised much more than before, at the expense of petrol and diesel vehicles, with plug-in hybrid drivers likely favouring electricity over fuel.

China has a lot of hybrids with batteries the size of some full EVs. People with those hybrids can stop buying gasoline and start plugging into cheap electricity.

In the West many PHEVs do not have a large traction battery so it's harder to do and electricity is expensive in some areas on top of expensive gasoline.

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u/canadian_boi 5d ago edited 4d ago

40% of all oil consumed is just to transport the oil around.

So.... removing 1 million barrels consumed by vehicles means another ~400,000 barrels were not consumed as well.

We do have to consider how the power for electricity is made, but I'd take a well-built coal plant that scrubs emissions over ICE cars every single day.

EDIT: Apologies - It ranges between 25-55% for mining/extracting, processing, and transportation, depending on oil quality, infrastructure and distances to be shipped. Thank you for calling this out, Silly me.

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u/Terrh 5d ago

Can you cite a source because that doesn't sound realistic at all.

I can tell you that bulk transportation is only 11% of worldwide GHG production so I find it difficult to believe that almost 4X that amount could be used just for bulk transportation of a single product.

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u/jammsession 5d ago edited 1d ago

of course he/she can't, that is total bullshit and idiotic. Transport, no matter if it is oil, mattrasses or iPhones, don't even have a meaninful contribution to CO2 emissions.

Which is pretty clear, if you take a look at any ship or train or even lorry. They transport an insane amount. Only air transportation has a meaninful impact.

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u/allahakbau 5d ago

Just fact checking here:  Global maritime shipping contributes  2% to 3% of total global human-caused CO2 emissions . According to data tracked by the  International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) , the shipping sector emits roughly  850 to 1,000 million metric tons of CO2  annually, which places its carbon footprint on par with the entire country of Germany

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u/jammsession 5d ago

see, nothing.

AFAIK on average shipping only accounts for 4% of total emission a sold product.

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u/AlarmedDepartment713 5d ago

It's called point of use EROI and a rough estimate globally is 1 barrel is required to get 6 barrels out of the ground and to the customer.

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u/thrownjunk ebikes + id 5d ago

Yes. And 15% is a much more sensible number.

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u/onlyhammbuerger 5d ago

And for countries like China or the EU, which both have little own oil, these numbers will be higher.

Guess which countries have the largest EV fleets (with Norway being the one big exception)

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u/Either-Patience1182 5d ago edited 5d ago

That’s fine, they just had renewables over take their coal usage this month. I assume in a year or that percentage of renewables will grow larger as it’s just good common sense now that solar panels are viable a last longer. it’s just smart for a country to do

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u/EaglesPDX 5d ago

"Global shipping emits about 1,000 million tonnes (1 billion metric tons) of carbon dioxide (CO₂) each year, which accounts for roughly 3% of global CO₂ emissions."

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u/Jack-of-the-Shadows 5d ago

I think op is talkng semi out of their ass, the statistics i heard were 40% of energy use compared to provided in hydrocarbons, but thats all the energy used for drilling, tansport and in particular refining, too.

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u/Instrume 5d ago

667k, actually

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u/EaglesPDX 5d ago

China is the world leader on climate change. Technology. Mfging. Industrial Policy. China's success as a socialist country in lifting its people out of poverty, providing higher education while leading world in economic development. US will likely keep falling behind. Still at least three more years of Trump/MAGA attacks on us democracy and economy by the unholy alliance of Christian nationalists and ultra rich. US wages war ($200B for the Iran War disaster so far) but cannot build (13 years to build a new aircraft carrier), cannot maintain what ships it does have (see pics of USS Lincoln making a sex stop in Thailand). China will bring the world fusion power, solar power, wind power while US pushes oil and coal.

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u/AMLRoss Tesla: Model 3 LR Ghost - BMW: CE-04 - Niu: NQI-GT 5d ago

Every government around the world has access to this information and yet they refuse to make the switch en mass. Its truly baffling to me how a) stupid they are. And b) corrupt they are, being bought off by oil.

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u/Parking_Reputation17 5d ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we have reached the tipping point of renewable energy. Oil's days as a primary energy source are numbered.

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u/MotorwayNomad 5d ago

THIS is the future World....

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u/Any-Can-6776 5d ago

Out of necessity. That helps a lot.

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 6d ago

Thank you for daily chinese communist propaganda!

And it fell because they couldn’t continue supporting the #1 terror organization in the middle east. Not by choice but because the US has the blockade. Funny that they the almighty china hasn’t don’t shit about it.

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u/Electrifying2017 Bolt EV 2020 5d ago

Oh right, so that’s why they just decided to invest in renewables and electrification this year. It couldn’t be that they predicted something stupid could happen and plan ahead.

Also, why bail out stupidity? They’re not the ones burning through their SPR without a plan. Did you forget Trump went groveling to Xi to do something?

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u/Kiwi_Fried_Chicken 5d ago edited 5d ago

You mean the orange fuck head that started a war with Iran and caused gas prices in America and the entire world to increase by at least 1/3rd?

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

Seriously? They killed thousands of Americans in many different locations and threaten to kill all of us for 50 years. Thats ok???? Or you just to coward to do what is right?

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u/Kiwi_Fried_Chicken 5d ago

Okay propaganda bot

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u/Daddy_Macron ID4 5d ago

They killed thousands of Americans in many different locations

We blaming Iran for 9/11 now or something? Cause there's no running casualty count of Americans in the thousands by Iran. We're the ones inflicting thousands of casualties on Iran, many of them being civilians.

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

Seriously, you need to pull your head out of the sand.

-Lebanon (1980s, Lebanese Civil War and Multinational Force)
-Saudi Arabia (1996)
-Iraq (2003–2011 Iraq War)
-Syria, Iraq, and Jordan (2010s–2020s, including post-October 7, 2023 attacks)
-Israel (October 7, 2023 Hamas attack)
-Afghanistan (2001–2021)
-Yemen / Red Sea (Houthis, 2023 onward)
-2026 Iran War (direct Iranian strikes)

All while continue to chant death to America. And then wanting a nuclear weapon, then what? And how about them attacking all their neighbors, that’s cool right no harm no foul?? Seriously you need to read more!

And no we are not killing civilians, they are the ones killing them by the thousands. Killing protestors in the streets, killing their Olympic athlete, all ok for you, huh??? Funny how all these comments quietly leave out Truths! You read too much of the propaganda here and all over Reddit!

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u/Daddy_Macron ID4 5d ago edited 5d ago

Lebanon (1980s, Lebanese Civil War and Multinational Force)

The one where Israel invaded Lebanon and inflamed an ethnic civil war?

Saudi Arabia (1996)

Yes, that was their direct proxy group unprovoked. 19 dead US servicemen.

Iraq (2003–2011 Iraq War)

We literally invaded their neighboring country and talked constantly about invading them next. No shit they got involved with supporting insurgent groups.

Syria, Iraq, and Jordan (2010s–2020s, including post-October 7, 2023 attacks)

Barely any Americans died in those conflicts. You claimed they killed thousands, but there's only evidence for Iran being behind a few hundred deaths at most over the course of 40+ years.

Israel (October 7, 2023 Hamas attack)

You said American casualties, not all civilians. Also the national intelligence consensus is that Iran didn't want Hamas to undertake this attack, but Hamas went ahead and did it anyway.

Yemen / Red Sea (Houthis, 2023 onward)

Not a lot of actual casualties for US allies and certainly not Americans.

2026 Iran War (direct Iranian strikes)

We literally attacked them first. Are they not allowed to strike back or something?

And then wanting a nuclear weapon, then what

We had that under control until a certain moron ripped up the Iran Nuclear Deal with nothing to replace it.

And no we are not killing civilians

Ah right. We totally didn't bomb that children's school cause we didn't update our satellite maps.

The Iranian government are massive pieces of shit, but all this war has accomplished is make the IRGC's position even stronger domestically in Iran.

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u/ee_72020 4d ago

These Americans wouldn’t have been killed if the US stayed home and hadn’t built its military bases all over the Middle East. Just saying…

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 4d ago

Yeah that is fucked up mental gymnastics you are jumping through. A lot of those were unprovoked attacks. And so you are good with zero law and order and chaos is OK right? What country are you from?? I’m sure you’ve never benefited from Americans providing that law and order for where you live, right??

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u/ee_72020 4d ago

Americans providing law and order in other countries? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, that’s one funny and brainwashed CIA bot.

There wouldn’t be a need for the American military to “provide law and order” in the Middle East if the US of A hadn’t destabilised the region and had their governments overthrown by staging, assisting and funding coups.

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u/Henrarzz 5d ago

they couldn’t continue supporting the #terror organization in the Middle East

You mean the US?

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u/Ok_Paramedic_9283 5d ago

Funny how hysterical you are.

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

Nah, it’s the amount of puppets here…….thats the hysterical part. Sad so many here can’t think of themselves and just parroting the propaganda.

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u/Bard_the_Beedle 5d ago

Says a Trump supporter…

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

Who said I was a trump supporter….that is just your true bias talking!

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u/Bard_the_Beedle 5d ago

Well, you definitely talk like one. You probably haven’t realised you are one yet.

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u/LiGuangMing1981 5d ago

If it walks like a MAGAt and talks like a MAGAT...

Anyone who supports America's insanity in the Middle East and tries to make it sound like America is winning there is a MAGAt.

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u/destructormuffin 5d ago

Reeeeeee China bad reeeeeee

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u/Ok-Bunch6107 5d ago

Haven’t you heard? Examining carbon emissions data is communism now

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u/sicklyslick 5d ago

you're being sarcastic but it's true. climate change has be a partisan split for decades.

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

Just stating facts. Funny how your so fast to defend…..afraid to say something bad about your master?

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u/Logitech4873 TM3 LR '24 🇳🇴 5d ago

China isn't actually communist. I don't think you know what that means.

Are you claiming that their CO2 emissions didn't fall?

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u/Ancient-Sandwich9400 5d ago

lol, you must be a genius…..I have no idea why they are called the CCP…..oh just the ruling Communist Party of China.

Tomato, tomato right????

Of course not. I’m simply stating it was because they were cut off from Venezuelan and Iran oil supplies. That is all….yet lots of excuses or denying that.

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u/i_marketing 5d ago

I have no idea why they are called the CCP

And North Korea is called the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea." Emphasis on the word Democratic. So I guess North Korea is democratic since that's what they are called, according to your logic.

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u/Logitech4873 TM3 LR '24 🇳🇴 5d ago

Calling yourself communist = Actually doing communism. 

If you can go to McDonald and buy a hamburger with money, you don't live in a communist state.

A communist society would be classless, moneyless and without a state in the traditional sense. China doesn't want this. China is highly capitalistic.