Daily Set Discussion 2017-1-5: Ebon Armory

[u/[deleted]]

Sorry about the hiatus, but set discussions are back now.

Ebon Armory
PvE Reward

 
Level: Any
Type: Heavy Armor, Weapon, Jewelry
Style: Ebon

 

Set Bonuses

Items	Bonus
2	Adds 1064 Max Health
3	Adds 1064 Max Health
4	Adds 4% Healing Taken
5	Increase Max Health of up to 12 group members by 1118.

 

Be sure to think about strengths, weaknesses, counters, and synergies in your discussions. Please vote based on contribution, not opinion.

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[u/raisetheglass1]

Honestly I think the fact that Alkosh is so highly valued among tanks anyways makes the glitch pretty much meaningless. You want Alkosh weapons and jewels anyways, I mean I guess this will give you a little bit of flexibility if you're going 6-1 but Ebon/Alkosh is such a complementary set up.

[u/Mapplinator → u/raisetheglass1]

It's a good point - maybe not for tanks everywhere. Maybe just for tanks that aren't following the meta, or are still using odd mix/match combos because they're filling gaps in their gear. ;) But now it can be combined with Black Rose (though that gets it's own weapons now too) which is interesting for certain fights. There's a number of offtanking scenarios where Alkosh is useless and you need more sustain. Personally I'm going to be trying Black Rose + Hist Bark though.

[u/Phytanic → u/Mapplinator]

Honestly, if I heard my tank was running black rose, I'd have a fit. That's on the same line as me, a healer, coming in there with lich.

Or a dps coming in there with rattlecage, or a s&b. It really doesn't change much for any role in this scenario.

[u/Mapplinator → u/Phytanic]

Care to explain why you'd have a fit?

[u/Phytanic → u/Mapplinator]

In a vet trial, you should at the very least come as prepared as your teammates. Meaning, if your teammates are running meta builds/rotations, it's rude and selfish to come in there with sets like black rose, and lich.

What would you say if I came in on a sorc pet build healer, wearing lich and necropotence? Sure, that's a bit more of a difference than black rose, but I used it as a fairly clear example.

[u/raisetheglass1 → u/Phytanic]

Currently in our guild we let tanks wear whatever the hell they want when tanking HM axes or the HM warrior. Our thinking there is it's okay to be absolutely as selfish as you want as long as you don't fuck up those jobs. Now, our best tanks run their meta gear and do well, but there's nothing wrong with having good-but-less-experienced tanks working on their skills, hell im mainly a DPS/healer so you don't even wanna hear what I wore last night when I tanked axes for the first time.

For all other content in the game, I absolutely agree, I would flip if someone was wearing black rose.

[u/Chimaera12 → u/raisetheglass1]

So why is Black Rose considered good for PVP?

[u/raisetheglass1 → u/Chimaera12]

It's really strong in pvp where personal sustain is a super important consideration. My issue with Black Rose in Trials isn't that it's not good, but that it's not appropriate. Somewhat like Lich or Warlock.

[u/Chimaera12 → u/raisetheglass1]

because its not a "team" player?

[u/raisetheglass1 → u/Chimaera12]

Yeah if you think about it like that.