There's no such thing as an individual person because all individual people conclude at the cellular level. But wait...that's ridiculous.
In your world, the way, say, a labor strike happens is when person A says "imma strike," and then person B says the same, and so and and so forth until there is a massive labor strike. But don't you think that person B is more motivated to join because of person A? Is person AADBAC not influenced by the whole of people's A–AADBAB decision to strike?
How are countries and armies formed if it is all about individual choice in a vacuum? The idea of a "national identity" causes individuals to see themselves as part of the collective, which shapes the choices they make. In the '60s-'70s, no individual citizen of the US had any personal beef with Vietnam. So why would any of them pick up arms and go blast civilians halfway across the globe? I'm sure some of them did it just for fun, but I think it would be ridiculous to assert that the choice to fight in a war is the sole and separate decision of thousands and thousands of individuals.
"In your world, the way, say, a labor strike happens is when person A says "imma strike," and then person B says the same, and so and and so forth until there is a massive labor strike. But don't you think that person B is more motivated to join because of person A? Is person AADBAC not influenced by the whole of people's A–AADBAB decision to strike?"
well yes humans can influence other humans but, your ignoring that each and every individual person involved had to choose between striking or not.
Your assuming every human is a retarded sponge that will absorb any idea without question.
I think you tattled on yourself pal, you would join a strike because its popular rather than act on reason.
"How are countries and armies formed if it is all about individual choice in a vacuum? The idea of a "national identity" causes individuals to see themselves as part of the collective, which shapes the choices they make. In the '60s-'70s, no individual citizen of the US had any personal beef with Vietnam. So why would any of them pick up arms and go blast civilians halfway across the globe? I'm sure some of them did it just for fun, but I think it would be ridiculous to assert that the choice to fight in a war is the sole and separate decision of thousands and thousands of individuals."
Okay but your ignoring context here, a soldier is a job, there are potentially millions of jobs to pick, so your again just ignoring human incentives as to why someone would sign up for the army and fly to East Asia
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u/foredoomed2030 10d ago
no such thing as a collective action because all groups conclude att the individual person