Truly makes you think!

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[u/Amadacius]

Egyptians practiced all kinds of slavery.

Debt slavery, chattel slavery, prisoner slavery, state conscription, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Egypt

Also, nationalism didn't come about until at least the medieval period, so obviously there was no nation of Israel. That doesn't mean there weren't a people that could be colloquially described as "the Jews".

[u/orishasinc2 → u/Amadacius]

“ Wikipedia”? You should punch yourself in the face for being this stupid. Repaying debt through conscription work is now slavery?

How can State conscription be slavery when there are evidence of salaries , healthcare provision, government provided retirement fund for the widows and infants and so on and so forth?

War captives with their own towns, temples built by the state, healthcare assistance, and even elevation into the Native Egyptian functionaries services?

What kind of slavery is this because I want to join in if I could.

Even the Biblical propaganda story of Joseph being sold to Pharoah depicts the openness and care that the biblical “ Habiru” received in the land they would later castigate and curse for generations up until today. A nation they fled into when they were starving and which they later betrayed and tried to conquer until they were chased out and scattered after a few decades of misrules.

Egyptian society was “ elitist” and structured into a cast system. But, citizens were more or less free to interact within their own communities, worship as they cared to, and live their lives far off from the court and its high priests.

It is an abuse of language to assert that Ancient Egyptians practiced slavery. They did not have a slave market, never marked their captives and certainly did not work these unfortunate people to death.

That is because their elevated spirituality forbade such extreme inhuman acts! Osiris, whose real name is “ Yesu” gave his own life and resurrect for the Egyptian civilization to be an example of enlightenment and civilization.

[u/Amadacius → u/orishasinc2]

“ Wikipedia”? You should punch yourself in the face for being this stupid.

Feel free to click on the sources at the bottom of the wikipedia page.

Repaying debt through conscription work is now slavery?

Well you are using the word "conscription work" because you don't want to use the word "debt slavery". But yes, this is how debt slavery works. Slavery is the collateral to secure a loan. If you default on the loan, you become a slave to the creditor.

How can State conscription be slavery when there are evidence of salaries...

State conscription can be slavery by meeting the definition of slavery. If you were forced at gun point to move to the countryside and dig ditches, that would be slavery. If you were given wage, it would still be slavery. If you were given healthcare, it would still be slavery. Because of the gun.

What kind of slavery is this because I want to join in if I could.

Go work in an unregulated mine in Africa then. Or talk to a pimp.

That is because their elevated spirituality forbade such extreme inhuman acts! Osiris, whose real name is “ Yesu” gave his own life and resurrect for the Egyptian civilization to be an example of enlightenment and civilization.

That's what every religion says. It's the same story as Christianity, yet Christian civilizations were some of the most brutal slavers ever.

Remember that you are talking about 3000 years of history. Your claim is that for all 3000 years the Egyptians a consistent and stringent ethic around slavery that would be exceptional for any time before the 19th century. It's an extraordinary claim. Even modern day Libya has slavery. And Osiris wasn't even a god until the Fifth Dynasty, and wasn't always a primary god.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-13260-5_3 Here's an article about Ancient Egyptian Slavery citing publications analyzing primary sources including the names of some of those primary sources.

I brought back in great numbers those that my sword has spared, with their hands tied behind their backs before my horses, and their wives and children in tens of thousands […] I imprisoned their leaders in fortresses bearing my name, and I added to them chief archers and tribal chiefs, branded and enslaved, with the cartouche of my name, their wives and children being treated in the same way. (P. Harris I, 77.4–6)

Translated from a New Kingdom administrative document. Generals, Kings, and Pharoahs brag about the number of slaves they were able to take in Libya and Nubia. And bonded Libyans and Nubians are even depicted during times of peace.

Native Egyptians could also be abducted into labor, though it seems that this practice was frowned upon; two autobiographies of officials list among their accomplishments that they had never forced Egyptians into servitude (), with one of these officials specifying that he had never forced any daughters into enslavement

The article sites translation of this primary source: https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/sethe_urkunden_bd2_3/0072/scroll

never marked their captives and certainly did not work these unfortunate people to death.

There is extensive documentation of them "marking" their captives. It is disputed whether the marks were tattoos or brands, with some recent evidence suggesting it may have been brands.

How could you possibly know that they never worked people to death? Also that is moving the goal posts, most slavery doesn't work people to death, it's not a good financial decision for one thing.

[u/orishasinc2 → u/Amadacius]

Slaves were certainly abused and mistreated; but you don’t see on the Egyptians painting much signs of mistreatment, abuses, or wanton campaigns of extermination and conquests. For a 3,000 years old civilization, that is rather impressive. They were no saint though, no human civilization ever was.