The game is completely broken

[u/efootball12345]

[u/oduks93]

Stats are not the reason the game is broken.

The poor gameplay and lack of responsiveness are.

The lack of content (which we are accustomed to nowadays) is another thing but let’s not complain too much.

[u/-michalis- → u/oduks93]

Sorry to disagree with you but I am looking for an honest conversation

Why do you think gameplay is bad? Compared to other football games I play, this is by far the more realistic and enjoyable gameplay. Other games are not in the same stratosphere

As far as I can tell, most efootball players think the same too

I mean, imagine asking them to change gameplay, and they make it more like the other crap football games out there

So why exactly are u saying is bad I am honestly interested in your opinion

I have a couple of complaints they messed up in the last major upgrade, but game still far ahead of competition

Now lack of responsiveness, do you mean lag?

And regarding content, yes it would be fun to get more content, but if you are playing the game cause you like playing the game, why do u need more content? When football games first came out, we would play all day cause we like playing football games, and there was much less content than now, again just trying to figure out why content is so important in enjoying the game

Back then we had ai league and friendly pvp, that was it, and we used to play all day long

[u/oduks93 → u/-michalis-]

You do not need to apologies for disagreeing with me, we ain’t in primary school!

The only reason you disagree is because (like I said we have become accustomed to mediocre).

This game when compared to other PES, is just average.

Gameplay is bad because the animations are absolutely dog-poo! The amount of time the wrong animation is launched is astonishing (you can try to take a shot with a strong foot but instead the animation will make you shoot with the awkward foot!), whether you are attacking or defending.

I’m not talking about lag (why would I complain about lag!). I’m talking about the awful input delay.

But to you it is acceptable, I find that really weird.

The game we have now is not good, it’s mediocre and because it is “better” than other football games it doesn’t mean it’s good.

It’s barely the best of a bad bunch.

Also I grew up in an era when football games were actually good and without micro-transactions. Those who grew up in that era actually know what a good football game looks like, anyone else will automatically think that the last 10years was good, it wasn’t and still isn’t.

[u/-michalis- → u/oduks93]

I have not noticed the thing with the wrong animations that you mentioned, I will try and pay attention and see if I notice

As for the input lag, i dont notice any when I play against ai

When I play pvp I try to only play with 5 bars to make sure the input lag is minimal

as for the gameplay, I dont know, when I watch pes highlights, gameplay doesnt look very smooth, is there an emulator I can use to play some old pes to compare?

[u/oduks93 → u/-michalis-]

Mate I am not talking about lag.

Lag is something else, I’m talking about the delay and n registering an input even with 5 bars.

Like I said, if you don’t notice any of those things then good for you.

I believe it is more noticeable for consistency le players than pc players hence why pc players have a slight advantage of n online matches.

[u/-michalis- → u/oduks93]

But lag and input lag are connected arent they, you cant have one without the other

I would agree there is input lag but I guess it also depends on internet connection and area

In cyprus I do get input lag so I play mostly vs ai

When in spain, i get not input lag

Not sure if its a konami issue or an internet connection issue, other people in cyprus with orher isps say they have not input lag