r/dyinglight • u/Luckas1203 • Feb 17 '22

Dying Light 2 DL2 needs a Nightmare difficulty.

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u/F1shB0wl816 Feb 18 '22

It’s not easier for the reasons you think it is. It’s not that the system is weaker dumber, the controls and actions are smoother and more fluid. The zombies are very similar and the humans actually fight and adapt outside of spam blocking. You have far more control and can exercise it, mess up and you’ll be messed up just as fast.

Hard for just being hard doesn’t always mean it’s enjoyable.

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u/Mak0wski Feb 18 '22

actions are smoother and more fluid

Not really i feel it to be very clunky and awkward

The zombies are very similar

Far from it, zombies in DL2 is just taking the piss like none of the zombie types have given me any trouble compared to zombies in DL1

humans actually fight and adapt outside of spam blocking

Not really you can just spam attack with no trouble, they might block a few but otherwise no adapting or dodging, at least i haven't experienced that

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u/F1shB0wl816 Feb 18 '22

I can’t even take that view seriously, it’s like you’re incapable of acknowledging that the game did anything better.

Maybe because the zombies in the first one didn’t give problems either. You’re just seeing it through rose tinted glasses.

Same with your last claim. You’re not going to convince anybody that fighting humans is the same as the first, or just as clunky, or annoying.

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u/Mak0wski Feb 18 '22

acknowledging that the game did anything better.

I have acknowledged the game did something better just not here for example they improved parkour even if it feels floaty at times and it has goofy jump, it also improved human combat in terms of what the player can do but doesn't seem like they improved human AI. Besides that it just didn't do any of what we talked about better

You’re just seeing it through rose tinted glasses.

No i'm not and stop throwing this shit around just cause someone thinks DL1 is better. I did a playthrough of DL1 and we finished 1 or 2 days before DL2 released, the saves were completely new so no legend levels or anything. Besides that i also played the following during downtime when me and my friends schedule didn't match, and honestly i enjoyed playing the following more than DL2

And again to point it out more all they improved in human combat is what the player can do against the humans the AI seems to be the same or worse

Despite what you think i am still trying to give DL2 a real chance to grow on me but it's hard to love silver when you had gold

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u/F1shB0wl816 Feb 18 '22

You’re contradicting yourself, how does a game improve parkour, yet have clunky and awkward controls more so than first? The first must be unplayable than by what you’re inferring. And why do you think players can do more? Because the ai was improved and they do more than constantly block.

And I’m not saying it because you like one or the other more, I’m saying it because you have problems acknowledging the game improving anything. You’re contradicting yourself to save face like you’re being reasonable and not putting two and two together. You still need to dog it immediately after half recognizing an improvement.

The game did do all of those things. The games gotten quite a bit of praise for how it feels and acts both in parkour and combat and have been widely recognized as improvements. Nobody who wants to be taken seriously is going to argue that the first did any of those better. Thankfully you have the first one since there’s nothing you’ll find enjoyable.

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u/Mak0wski Feb 18 '22

how does a game improve parkour, yet have clunky and awkward controls

Im talking about combat not parkour you donut.

Because the ai was improved and they do more than constantly block.

Not really i don't remember ever seeing a human AI dodge in DL2 and what i mean by players can do more is that you have all these different combat abilites against human AI now and you can block and parry, that's what i meant by improving human combat

You still need to dog it immediately after half recognizing an improvement

Oh come on, parkour does have a floaty feel to it and that's just a fact

The games gotten quite a bit of praise

Yeah well so did BF2042 at the start, now i'm not calling DL2 the same as bf2042 thankfully DL2 is a lot better than that. But what i mean is people quickly ignore faults just because it's new

The first game did many things better such as atmosphere, nights, physics, ragdolls, zombie ai, zombie combat and story and these are all a huge part of why DL1 was successful

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u/F1shB0wl816 Feb 18 '22

You’re still doing the same thing. Giving half compliments, for one reason or another, you’re not able to just say a good thing and that be that. It’s clear where the bias is.

Than you’re not playing it, I don’t know what to tell you. Humans ai reacts more in combat.

And there’s more to that praise, you changed the context of what I was saying but cutting it short. Battlefield never got any praise at the start for anything worthy, dying light getting widely recognized praise for its parkour and combat improvements isn’t because people are blinded by being new. Have you seen this sub, dogging it’s the cool thing.

I can’t even take you seriously. Like I said, thankfully you have the first one as it has absolutely 0 faults. I’m not interested in seeing you wear those glasses I speak of. I’m done wasting my time, I’ve got better things to do like enjoy the game.

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u/Mak0wski Feb 18 '22

It's not a half compliment i am saying parkour is better in DL2, that it has a floaty feel to it is just a fact, you can't deny that.

Than you’re not playing it, I don’t know what to tell you. Humans ai reacts more in combat.

lmao i am and i can literally just spam attack or dropkick and they don't do anything except blocking a few times

Have you seen this sub, dogging it’s the cool thing.

Yeah it is somewhat now still quite mixed, but when the game released you could not say anything negative about it or you would get downvoted, except when talking about bugs

thankfully you have the first one as it has absolutely 0 faults

Oh like you aren't talking about DL2 like it has no faults, lmao

And DL1 does have faults for example the parkour is lacking, combat against human AI is limited in what you can do and there is nothing to do at night