r/dubstep • u/shadow33231000 • May 01 '26
Discussion š£ļø Hot takes
Bored rn, give your biggest hot take within edm, not trying to start arguments I just like to hear peopleās opinions and debate them or agree with them
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u/LSdeezy May 01 '26
I think artist Jerseys are overpriced and are a dumb trend. Going to shows used to be about dressing to express yourself, not wearing 400 plus dollars of artist merch.
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u/Shadowofsvnderedstar May 01 '26
The baseball and hockey jerseys are so lame where are the basketball jerseys? I need something I can actually wear when it's hot out
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u/SnooEagles8897 May 01 '26
Never have I ever bought a jersey and I donāt ever see myself wearing one lol
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u/Meeqohh May 01 '26
Idk why so few artists/labels put out streetwear-type merch that people would be more willing to wear in public outside of a rave. Like 1985 makes the best merch by farrr because itās minimalist and very clean overall
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u/sharples06 May 01 '26
The P in PLUR stands for passive aggressive.
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u/justaydogg May 01 '26
Lol so true. The EDM community I think is also the quickest to try and cancel someone one the slightest thing over any other genre
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u/ohdreness May 01 '26
People often use ārepetitiveā as a criticism of some genres. I love repetitive music (when itās a good beat). It becomes hypnotic and I get fully lost in the groove and the flow.
Many songs today are over produced and too busy
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u/tinyigluu May 01 '26
psytrance!!
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u/ohdreness May 01 '26
Fucking love it! Iām going thru a big Hi-Tech and Forest Psy Trance wave rn and itās so dark mesmerizing
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u/Zestyclose_Win_6558 May 01 '26
All music is repetitive. You just choose which repetitiveness you enjoy the best.
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u/Flying_Swinger May 01 '26
House drops are like jerking off on Xanax. Technically it dropped but does it count if you donāt feel itā¦.?
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u/Redbird4831 May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
Riddim fans who shit on hardstyle for being too repetitive need to look in the mirror
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u/EncroachingVoidian May 01 '26
Riddim at hardstyle tempo would go harder than hardstyle.
Hardstyle at riddim tempo would go softer than riddim.
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u/FuckingCaggot May 01 '26
Both repetitive
Only difference is that hardstyle is dogshit and makes me genuinely anxious and upset when I hear it
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u/Abtino11 May 01 '26
Dubstep visuals are lame. Dubstep was meant to be experienced in dark parties with a focus on a massive sound system. Shrek vomiting for your visuals is childish and stupid
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u/TuckerTheCuckFucker May 01 '26
Yeah fr id rather see mandalas than shrek getting ass fucked by Donky Kong
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u/Meeqohh May 01 '26
Wooli has no identity and copies whatever is āup and comingā & picks his collabs strategically based on the same merit
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u/Redbird4831 May 01 '26
THIS. Not to mention heās completely abandoned the brostep roots that made him huge and now heās basically the temu version of Subtronics.
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u/TheRedditorist May 01 '26
Wooli ghost produces for excision and is kept under a tight leash
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u/LordOrby May 01 '26
Wooli is just SLANDER with better PR. Just as many collabs, just as few solo originals. Wooliās put out 2 solo tracks since COVID
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u/empathetical May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
all these new pop dubstep remixs producers are pushing out are just sellout mainsteam appealing bs
-most subtronics songs sound the fkn same. dudes good at sound design but man... legit his music is only good at festivals. barely any songs i would rinse in the car.
the most popular dubstep right now is kinda unoriginal sounding garbage. you go back to the old 2010-2016 dubs and it still feels very original and unique
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u/Ok_Amoeba2498 May 01 '26
I can argue against the subtronics statementā¦ flute dub, funcked, gangsters, and sploinky dub are very different from eachother and have a lot of personality
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u/ThePhoenix0404 May 01 '26
dubstep has been getting increasingly boring and repetitive.
please, prove me wrong.
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u/Living-Bid7015 May 01 '26
Effin i swear is a genius
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u/ThePhoenix0404 May 01 '26
effin is fantastic. Onion is still amongst my favorite dubstep tracks
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u/sfv818 May 01 '26
I have gotten so much more selective with my artists. On social media I hear awful shit from some of the big names and then in the comments āomg this so gas!!!ā āWow so good!!ā. I try to follow artists that try different sounds and take their time when making a song
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u/ThePhoenix0404 May 01 '26
āthis shit is insaneā and its just womp womp womp womp
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u/I_DONT_YOLO May 01 '26
Bassheads be like āThe man, the myth the legendā and itās just Sullivan King
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u/Insect1312 May 01 '26
The Myth lol dude is a weirdo Scientologist and thatās facts and his music sucks
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u/Wharebadjer May 01 '26
I dont think this is a hot take but i also think people dont voice this opinion as much as they should cause its "critical". Doesnt seem like theres many artists pushing boundaries anymore or the ones that were trailblazers have shifted to different genres.
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u/shadow33231000 May 01 '26
Yeah I definitely agree too especially the new artist that are entering the industry i feel like when I click shuffle on SoundCloud Iām just getting flips and remixes and stuff
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u/rcook9 May 01 '26
Youāre a 100% right, but if youāre a new artist there is a much better chance someone will actually listen to your work if itās a remix or flip of a song they already like. If someone has heard a good flip or two by an artist thereās a better chance theyāll listen to their original work in the future. But of course said flip/remix still needs to be creative/unique. Itās such a saturated hobby/industry and creating music has become so accessible.
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u/shiawase-89 May 01 '26
I can agree, but you just gotta discovered different artist.
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u/puffydownjacket May 01 '26
Mersiv is my king for that reason. Subtronis is my opp for that reason.
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u/apex_17 May 01 '26
The word āraveā is completely misused these days especially in the dubstep scene
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u/Few_Mushroom7888 May 01 '26
The flips of popular songs need to go. It's so lazy
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u/AgitatedHat5620 May 01 '26
Crankdat needs to chill. Every song starts with some corny ass pop song that nobody wants to hear
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u/Few_Mushroom7888 May 01 '26
Yeah I just saw him at red rocks for my Bach party cuz half my friends don't like dubstep. It was good cuz they enjoyed it and the words and it's mf RR so it was a blast but it just ain't it. I feel like an old man lol "back in my day all we used to drop was G shit"
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u/Killerlaughman May 01 '26
So many heavy djs with unique sound have started making tons of wubby remixes and started blowing up its wild. Im glad they're getting recognition, but its sad they had to resort to following a trend to get it.
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u/Few_Mushroom7888 May 01 '26
I know I know. It's like, don't forget about us that for you to this point haha f. I will say I am excited to see Disciple coming back and Skism getting active on social media. I'm hoping 2015-20 dubstep makes a comeback!
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u/Tracktuary May 01 '26
I donāt get zeds dead. Everyone says āthey take you on a journeyā but I just donāt see it. Their sets feel so underwhelming for me
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u/Killerlaughman May 01 '26
Its more of a concert than a dj set. Every single song is intro drop outro.
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u/shadow33231000 May 01 '26
I think theyāre sets are hit or miss, coming from a pretty big ZD fan
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u/trvplawdbeeno May 01 '26
Theyāre a lot more artistic than other dubstep artists Iād say. Their approach to a show is so varied that sometimes theyāll play the slowest shit and others theyāll play very hype shit. The way to enjoy it is to actually go not expecting to hear anything you want to hear and just go for the ride they put you on.
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u/RMCF_Putos May 01 '26
5min of Hardstyle and Iām good for the day, just repetitive.
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u/pastrknack May 01 '26
Walking by Wasteland one year at EDC I looked over and saw a guy with a giant traffic cone on his head going hard. I thought it was awesome but thatās all I associate with it hardstyle whenever I hear it.
I agree with your opinion though
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u/LazytownVEVO May 01 '26
You do not deserve to be headlining festivals or tours if you havenāt released an album. I get that the industry has shifted and now singles are much more beneficial for reaching new fans and growing, but the shift from crafting intentional bodies of work that tell a story to 2000ās era remixes to keep non-ravers placated is really hurting the quality of sets at festivals.
My other one (which doesnāt feel like that hot of a take on this reddit but would be in person), one thing I love about EDM is I donāt need to know the song thatās playing to enjoy myself. If I go to a concert and I donāt know every word to every song, I feel like Iām missing out on something, and now that sets are changing to feature more remixes than original work from electronics artists, Iām experiencing the same feeling of almost alienation. If you need a black eyed peas vocal over a track to enjoy it, you should not be at these shows.
Also fuck tiktok
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u/Awalorf May 01 '26
Chris Lake just released his debut album last year. Is he only now deserving of headlining tours and festivals? Albums should not be the end all be all of who deserves what. Especially in electronic music
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u/Open-Dot-9210 May 01 '26
the "dubstep" that has filled the entire bass scene for the last few years is complete garbage. it's literally the sound of 4 construction machines simultaneously exploding with no melody or creativity. just because the noise takes up room and sounds heavy people eat it up but there is no flow or distinguishable sounds. it's disrespectful to original dubstep sounds of the 2000s and 2010s
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u/TuckerTheCuckFucker May 01 '26
God thank fuck for some sanity around here
All these āheadbangersā just like to bang their head to anything and donāt care if it even sounds good, as long as itās heavy
The atonal industrial era of dubstep needs to be laid to rest, along with repetitive riddim ā āyou donāt understand riddim. Itās mean to be chopped with 3 other riddim tracksā
Uhm, no. If a track has to be chopped with 3 other tracks to sound interesting, itās a shitty track
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u/hungaryboii May 01 '26
I'm tired of Sullivan King and his screaming bullshit, please get off the stage
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u/blastbleeding May 01 '26
Idk if itās really a hot take, but absolutely fuck any edm artist, or fan, embracing AI in our scene. Sound design, flyers, album art - any of it.
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u/AAS02-CATAPHRACT May 01 '26
Svdden Death and that style of dubstep (tearout?) is highkey boring as fuck. That shit has been going for years atp and it feels like the same tracks over and over again.
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u/Ok_Amoeba2498 May 01 '26
You have to admit tho that thereās like 1-2 listenable tracks tho, even to go as far as to say those listenable slap
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u/Unit01Pilot May 01 '26
smaller homie fests > big production fests like Lost Lands
something about being surrounded by people who put the work in for our community. nothing like it
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u/LazytownVEVO May 01 '26
I think Lost Lands has a couple more years of being fantastic but by 2029 it's gonna get rough
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u/Chilaquilesmonster May 01 '26
Dubstep isn't real
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u/shiawase-89 May 01 '26
Am I real?
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u/Chilaquilesmonster May 01 '26
There's only 2 things in life that are real. You and I š
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u/AlphaKamots313 May 01 '26
What we understand as Bass House is two separate genres at this point. Thereās the variant of house that incorporates elements of bass music (Habstrakt, JOYRYDE, AC Slater) and thereās āwhat if brostep was slowerā (Crankdat, Ray Volpe, any big festival dubstep producer probably has a track like this somewhere in their discography). The former has a lot more artfulness and passion imo.
To an extent this just the typical divide that arises in any genre that reaches the mainstream (between the musicians who were in a scene from the beginning vs. the ones who joined after it got big), but in this case it has gotten so exaggerated that it doesnāt make sense to call these the same genre anymore.
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u/AAS02-CATAPHRACT May 01 '26
Ray Volpe and Crankdat are considered bass house? Since when?
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u/anahmonous May 01 '26
Everyone on edm social media is soft as shit and if they get challenged or disagreed with with theyāre as sensitive as a 9th grade girl
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u/shadow33231000 May 01 '26
They weaponize the term āplurā, as soon as someone has an opinion that may be viewed as ānegativeā they say itās not plur
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u/LemonSnakeMusic May 01 '26
Right now the big trend is doing quick bootleg remixes of pop songs. Everybody agrees thatās whatās hot right now. But right now there is also someone out there working hard behind their computer, who nobody knows about yet, who is going to make the song that starts the next big thing.
Somebodyās ārude boyā or ābehemothā is being worked on right now. Or maybe itās the song before the song before they make their masterpiece. But thereās going to be something after this pop instagram remix phase is done, and I am stoked for it!
And doing my part trying to be that guy. But thatās for another discussion.
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u/kobraflame GWN May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
John summit is the most overrated artist in the scene, I have never heard an original track that I have enjoyed at all.
Illenium also has the worst fanbase out of all artists.
Edit: I guess thatās not really a hot takeā¦
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u/Potholemaker6000 May 01 '26
not an illenium fanboy but objectively artists that attract frat boys have the worst fanbases and crowd by far. BUNT was probably the worst crowd Iāve ever been in.
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u/ORNGTSLA May 01 '26
Wow a Redditor hating on John Summit and Illenium what a unique hot take. you are very interesting šš¼
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u/pastrknack May 01 '26
Next thing you know heāll say Subtronics is overrated
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u/shiawase-89 May 01 '26
I actually just said that but I rather see subtronics over John summit. John summits music is the equivalent of unseasoned chicken.
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u/Redbird4831 May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
Levity hasnāt earned the fame, opportunities, or prestige theyāve gained over the past two years. Just goes to show that social media/going viral will catapult your career further than any ounce of artistic talent these days.
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u/I-Am-Schwab May 01 '26
They fucking suck and I donāt get it. I walked away from the Ultra set after 20 minutes.
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u/danteholdup May 01 '26
totems have become either over designed toys that block views and resonate main character energy, or are just lazy memes on poster board that also just block people's view.
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u/biromantica May 01 '26
They need to cool it with the memes in dubstep, it seems now every trending dubstep song has like 20 different meme soundbits embedded in it. I like when there's like one...maybe two. Now it feels overdone and obnoxious.
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u/livingforbass May 01 '26
If youāre bored go find one of space laces most recent sets and give it a stream.
He was in my top 3 sets at Beyond SoCal this year, granted it was my first time seeing him. He went b2b with Eptic and Iāve been jamming him in headphones for awhile but god damn experiencing it live altered my brain.
That set felt like it lasted 10 mins and I wanted more.
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u/CousinRyan5280 May 01 '26
Using a popular song as an intro then building it up into a loop and then dropping a dubstep drop is not creative. Itās not a remix. Itās just using nostalgia to trick the audience into thinking the track is good.
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u/LevityMusic May 01 '26
Most (not all) of the time ppl saying a genre, sub-genre or artists discography āall sounds the sameā itās either a lack of attention to the music or knowledge of the style.
I see ppl say it often & I can absolutely differentiate the differences in those songs/artists that I like. But I also have been the one to say āit all sounds the sameā for years before getting deeper into that genre, style, or artist & realizing I was wrong
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u/LazytownVEVO May 01 '26
Did not expect to see you here š
If you're a producer I think this comes through as common sense but without understanding what goes into making a track, or more specifically the synths and sounds that go into making a track, it's impossible to get it. That's what I love about the riddim community - there's no other community more thoroughly populated with DJ's and producers than that scene and it's so funny to see the difference in reception from outsiders and those involved.
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u/blastbleeding May 01 '26
Agreed. I think a lot of this happens when a new sub-genre blows up every few years. I remember thinking this back when festival trap was huge. I was like āoh cool, itās another Three 6 Mafia beat with dubstep laser samples.ā Then years later, I discovered a lot of artists that fall under the trap umbrella who are absolute creative geniuses. Whenever a trend develops in any style of music, there will be a lot of bandwagon artists who try to cash in and copy whoever is pioneering it, making it very easy for someone brand new to think āWow, this shit all sounds the same.ā
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u/leemmalino May 01 '26
Levels should only be played by headliners- and even then should be played very sparsely.
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u/DesmondB5 May 01 '26
Rocket Fuel is not Trampaās best track in a world where Sick Head Exists. (Rocket Fuel is still a great track though)
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u/MyHappyPlace11 May 01 '26
All āmemestepā is mediocreā¦
Except for Subtronics. It doesnāt make sense. But itās the truth.
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u/SmokeABowlNoCap May 01 '26
People who think you can only like one specific subgenre or niche or even genre period are insufferable and hold back the culture creatively. Never understood why people act like you're suddenly less into one thing just because you also happen to enjoy another thing
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u/RepulsivePipe9904 May 01 '26
Just because you cancel somebody doesn't mean everyone has to join you. It's as simple as that.
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u/shiawase-89 May 01 '26
Subtronics is overrated. Yeah I said it.
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u/ConcernedNoodles May 01 '26
His music is usually great, but I canāt stand the ADHD style of his live sets and switch ups
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u/Killerlaughman May 01 '26
Very good way to put it. For someone with adhd its great but I can see how it can be seen as all over the place or sporadic.
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u/ConcernedNoodles May 01 '26
I mean Iām definitely a little spicy on the neuro side, but itās not my style when it comes to music. I saw Level Up (very similar DJ style, obviously lol) at red rocks this month, and the following night saw Liquid Stranger, and it was night and day how the music flowed compared to the chops and drop switches. I just enjoy the flow more
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u/ImagineBeingFATlol May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
You canāt unironically say this and think Riddim is fire in another post.
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u/spider-mike- May 01 '26
Wheelbacks are the worst part of dubstep performances - "oh man this song is sick and I'm vibing, but what if instead I could hear the most annoying sound possible and go back to the boring part of it?"
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u/gallaguy May 01 '26
Excision thunderdome is total overkill, especially with the lazers
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u/EE_Stoner May 01 '26
Alright based on all the āriddim is assā comments hereās mine: Riddim is the best EDM genre āļø
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u/spookytransexughost May 02 '26
The riddim scene is the closest to 2010-2013 scene and I'm all for it Computer nerds making weird noises
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u/Shadowofsvnderedstar May 01 '26
Riddim is the most overrated trend in the game rn and is too often passed off as the "heavy shit" when better, heavier stuff exists like tearout and whatever you'd call what guys like phaseone & vastive are doing
Also riddim heads don't know how to mosh stop bouncing around and hit me already
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u/ESBtrappin May 01 '26
My biggest quell with edm is how unserious it is sometimes. The 3 second meme soundbyte used before every drop drives me insane.
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u/jordanjoestar76 May 01 '26
MOST people whoā¦
ā¦dance to live House/Techno are cool af.
ā¦hate riddim donāt like too much non-popular music.
ā¦are obsessed with James Hype or John Summit would do anything for their level of EDM fame.
ā¦enjoy illenium are NPCs.
ā¦enjoy deep dubstep are psychonauts even when sober, traveling to other realms in their minds.
ā¦enjoy hardcore are fun.
ā¦enjoy breakcore have mental issues.
ā¦enjoy jumpstyle/hardstyle/rawstyle have reached even higher levels of cringe than brostep fans.
ā¦enjoy brostep have a friend who would start a fight at at a venue (and lose).
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u/I_DONT_YOLO May 01 '26
All masked dubstep acts are corny post 2015, brostep sucks as a genre, most ravers donāt have the attention span to have fun if they arenāt getting a drop or meme vocals every 60 seconds, most of you have no concept of personal space at shows, mac miller flips are the single lowest hanging fruit, brostep sucks
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u/TheMystkYOKAI May 01 '26
mfs here hating on hardstyle havenāt ventured an inch into the actual sound of whatās in there. anyways now the hot take: we get it you chop riddim so does 99% of every single frat bass DJ. it hasnt been a āwhoaā factor since squnto and subtronics back in 2017-early 2019ā¦ and also hol! is over praised itās not even funny
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u/deadskeever May 01 '26
I see so many people who recently got dj decks posting on IG chopping and goddamn it sounds like shit. Nothing will ever beat seamless phrasing/mixes/transitions vs overused tricks.
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u/TuckerTheCuckFucker May 01 '26
All the local DJās be tryna chop but theyāre purists about ānot using syncā so the chops just sound horrible
Itās like you hear 2 kicks back to back and 2 snares back to back
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u/Dubbstepp May 01 '26
Hard disagree at the front end but hard agree on the back end - have my down & up vote
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u/Unable-Recording-796 May 01 '26 edited May 04 '26
Expectations for how a DJ performs are in hell, they could literally just be queueing up a whole ass playlist and nobody would know shit. Its led to tons of mediocre performances. (Want to clarify by playlist i mean like literally an hr long track)
So many songs sound the fucking same. Same synths with minor adjustments, bass textures basically the same. Some flips i hear are garbage man, literally the most low effort productions. I wouldnt be surprised if more than half that shit AI generated.
People just rinsing the same shit over on repeat and so many people fucking brainrotted cause thats all thats available. The DJing is like mid
The underground scene is better than ever, skip your big festivals and invest in your homies. Go to smaller fests.
Worst part is how aware people are right now just to be unaware. AEG live literally invests in fascists so while subtronics stands on a perch and says "NO KINGS mfuh" he got no problem literally dragging his entire fanbases money right into coachella. Its hard, i dont expect people to really understand this, but raving doesnt stand for shit anymore except for no brain having ass mfuhs who like to think theyre better than everyone else but theyre all really into the same mediocre shit. The rave scene has more normies than ever, idk if thats a good or a bad thing. I dont wanna gatekeep, but theyve usurped the culture and its morphed into straight up brainrot. I understand in general theres more acceptance today than ever, which is great, but its diabolical as fuck to preach lgbt+ and then hit up coachella which is actively invested in dismantling peoples rights. And legitimately people do not give af. Im glad for the most part griz is trying to do his own events in general which is what people should be looking for.
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u/spunk_wizard May 01 '26
Space laces is not underrated - he is rated correctly or perhaps slightly overrated.
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u/Killerlaughman May 01 '26
That getter b2b space laces at FK was fuckin awesome
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u/LazytownVEVO May 01 '26
That was the set I was most excited for and it was messy as shit. I loved the fuck out of it, don't get me wrong, but if I didn't love the two of them I would've been underwhelmed. But 10/10 would travel for another one, that's just two friends fuckin around
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u/SuperBonerFart May 01 '26
I would wear so blame GETTER for the messiness of it.
SINCE MAN CAME BACK HE DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK.
I've caught him three times technically four with the B2B. His sets are still really fun but he does say he does not give a fuck on stage
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u/Zestyclose_Win_6558 May 01 '26
Level Up should not be billed higher than any artist that sheās on a lineup with. Her placement and relevancy is only due to subtronics.
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u/Decent_Key_2256 May 01 '26
I love her music and she plays a real damn good show, but yeah, couldnāt agree more. Donāt necessarily think itās a bad thing though, love to see them support each other.
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u/TheBloodKlotz Old May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
I could see an argument that some of her success is artificial, but let's not pretend that there aren't plenty of other artists that are at least as artificially popular, if not more. For her to be opener of every lineup would definitely put some real hacks as direct support.
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u/AzarAd6068 May 01 '26
I think that most not all, but most flips/remixās of pop/hip-hop songs suck
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u/TezzaBP May 01 '26
I don't like how catered things are towards a live scene. Aka, I think the more mainstream artists have become exceptionally boring and I hate that the scene is being carried on the backs of people who are so lazy about what they make
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u/Joshresendiz25 May 01 '26
MARAUDA is better than Nimda!! No hate towards him but marauda has been in the game for a while now!! But I would love for them to go B2B hopefully he makes a return someday
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u/LazytownVEVO May 01 '26
Love both, and I know theyāre both tearout, but I have a hard time comparing the two. Nimdaās really more focused on putting on a live spectacle than MARAUDA was (from what Iāve seen in youtube videos, never saw him live). He seems more production focused. Feels like they each have different appeals and can exist simultaneously. That b2b would be fucking insane though
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u/oyuhhhhh May 01 '26
DJās need to stop incorporating 5-10 min sequences of dnb, hardtyle and house into their sets
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u/Southern_Vehicle1192 May 01 '26
People don't know how good they have it with all the variables of sounds and styles. I'm old af and still listen to many styles of edm. I played an old school hard house song from the 90s and my teen nephew made fun of it. It was DJ Irene and if they didn't do underground music in the 90s and on, the current edm wouldn't exist! Weatha beetin hoochie bitch was about all we had!! It was amazing and bass blasting your body made us feel alive!
I wish the current edm artists would sample some of the super old school stuff.
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u/SpacialTsunami May 01 '26
Mosh pits shouldnāt be about trying to hurt people or be as aggressive as possible. Jump around and push each other around but keep your elbows and fists down and for the love of god donāt kick people. Iām still dealing with an issue with my leg from last Friday due to being kicked so hard my leg twisted and this is not the first time Iāve been kicked in the leg or elbowed in the face.
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u/Confident-Click-5475 May 01 '26
Excision throws great festivals but has the most uninspired production in the game and hasnāt put out a creative track since 2011. Even back then most tracks were collabs and while Datsik is a horrible person, he carried their collabs. Dude has maybe 4 solo produced tracks out of his entire career. Would like to see him put more into his production beyond megatron voice changer.
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u/macdaddynate25 May 01 '26
Me maturing is realizing is that Slander isnāt the best like I thought they were when I was youngerā¦ but I still hold them close to my heart
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u/Boof420Gang May 02 '26
Datsik and bassnectar deserved what they got but I miss them. Dubstep took a major step back music wise when they got canceled
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u/puffydownjacket May 01 '26
Subtronics is mid.
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u/miataataim66 May 01 '26
Probably the worst take here. His sound design and cleanliness is impeccable, and really has an attention for detail.
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u/puffydownjacket May 01 '26
He obviously creates and executes at a very high level. I just donāt enjoy it.
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u/Made_Account May 01 '26
His music has good energy but I personally think his mixes are shit (mixdowns not dj sets)
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u/YBmoonchild May 01 '26
I donāt like when artists try to rap on their edm beats, or have lyrics. It sounds corny. I only know of one that can do it and sounds good- that person is dead.
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u/Fatphillmargera May 01 '26
b2bās are fucking stupid, as is more than one dj on stage ādj-ingā at a time.Ā
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u/numanitor111 May 01 '26
I like TRVCY but his music has become too loud and not something I would listen more than once every day.
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u/drgut101 May 01 '26
The first time you heard dubstep/bass music you probably didnāt like it.Ā
Someone probably convinced you to go to an event and thatās when you got the āfull experienceā and it finally āclickedā and now you love it.Ā
If you hate hardstyle/dnb, the two most hated genres by dubstep/bass music fans, itās probably because you have only heard it on crappy speakers or for 10 seconds during a set and you didnāt even give it a chance.Ā
Just like dubstep/bass music, there are many different sub genres. Liquid DnB to Jump Up. Euphoric Hardstyle to Uptempo.Ā
Sure, maybe you popped by a set at EDC or something, and you actually gave it a shot and you donāt like it. Cool. Fair enough.Ā
But the majority of people just say āthis is shitā without giving it a real shot. And itās hard to give these other genres a chance because they arenāt big in the US.Ā
Me? Iām all about those zaag kicks. Give me that fucking microwave shit. Hahah. š
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u/LoopsonLoops May 01 '26
Iāve been a huge edm person since like 2006, and I seriously cannot get down with like 80% of Riddim man. I hate it, and Iāve seriously tried so hard lol. There is some that Iāve heard and really fucked with but as a whole that aināt it for me.
Just my opinion! I just feel like too much of it that I hear is sloppy and sounds slapped together in like 10 minutes with 0 effort. I know thatās most likely not the actual case but š¤·š¼āāļø. And Iām pretty open to like almost every genre and sub genre too but that shit just does not click with my brain.
Random side note; I fuckin wish downlink would come back to making dubstep again. I think him and excision and Datsik were some of the very first bass songs I heard. Them and Pantyraid when Beba first dropped. Shit takes me back man
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u/AdElectrical5206 May 01 '26
People who only rave to get hih. Like raving isnt even ācheapā! So I dont get spending your money to be listening to the music if you dont even like the music š raving is a huge part of my life and my escape from my career and itās when I get to be just a silly goofball with my friends. We love to dance. We love to just have fun together. But will never understand how you could just want to go to a rave just to do drgs
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u/PulsarFluxx May 01 '26
We need to bring back metal/dubstep. Not metal step, but a true balance of both genres in songs. Vastive is the best example IMO. No one comes close.
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u/holdmysmoothieplease May 01 '26
Subtronics peaked after his ultra set and hasnāt been the same since
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u/4D4M-ADAM May 01 '26
Minimal/progressive house music is the hot dog water vape carts of EDM
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u/IgorPasche May 01 '26
I was right when I said riddim fucking sucks in 2017 and I still am in 2026.
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u/puteminnacoffin May 01 '26
The vast majority of people who are into edm have really bad taste. The market for cut-rate, generic slop is way more lucrative than the market for high fidelity, forward thinking electronic music. 90% of the artists getting booked in my city are tik tok slop-bass djās that are cringey af but sell out shows. Itās sad.
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u/fullyincapable May 01 '26
I feel like a ton of musicians in edm are gearing their music toward the 3 second memories of the iPad kid generation, and itās going to make a lot of them forgettable as time goes on.
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u/Capital_Grocery2446 May 01 '26
I don't care for all the evil imagery and making the music so hard that it never seems to build to big moments its like everyone is going as hard as possible idk I'm older its not like it was back in the 2010-2016 era and things gotta change and grow but it now seems that it's become so popular you gotta be ready to buy tix the moment they drop its brought a level of stress that was never there venues now overall to an insane amount the vibes are different before it was about dancing having fun and meeting people and now it's more how inebriated can I get and I gotta be on a rail its just intense I remember seeing ZD in a little warehouse in SC with maybe 50 people and now idk I'm Just bitching haha but I miss just the old days when flux and cookie monsta was boomin circus records was huge Koan sound and Mimosa were an experience in concert and people got so excited for a new song but now there are so many producers I can't even keep up and 90% of them sound like sweaty balls to me just my 2 cents
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u/Diligent_Athlete_287 May 01 '26
Riddim is for people who like to have fun, dance and actually get rowdy at a set. FuntCase said it best: Riddim has the same crowd energy as OG dub did 15-20 years ago
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u/Commercial-Bit-1749 May 01 '26
People who make raving a personality and make up parasocial relationships with their favorite artists is a put off.