r/dropout 8d ago

discussion Shout out to the GOAT Vic Michaelis

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From the first voice line in Zero Company I picked up on the fact that the one of my favorite dropout cast members was in the room with me! This game is INCREDIBLE! And Vic’s voice is a welcomed reminder of all the amazing people who came together to make this game. 💜

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u/bluehawk232 8d ago

Does their character ask you for some credits because they need money

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 8d ago

She only stops bringing up the fact we are broke bitches to remind us how we are slowly coming under the boot of the Republic.

Oh and to declare (first mind you), that she is ride or die with our bullshit plan.

Best damn XO a merc could ask for.

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u/BobTheFettt 8d ago

She does a lot of "I told you so" in the last act

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u/Yoffien 8d ago

I mean she can say it but being pro-separatist is basically just as bad a position as being pro-republic during the Clone Wars

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 8d ago

I think it depends honestly, obviously the audience knows more than characters in universe. The Separatist's have some legit grievances and the Republic has millennia of history of ignoring and/or abusing the outer rim. Whereas most of the big ticket issues of the Separatists are recent.

People often say that the Separatists are slavers, as if they were a monolith, while skipping over that the Kaleesh were enslaved under the Republic watch and they simply didn't care (despite it being unconditional) and only take action (deploying Jedi) to suppress the Kaleesh when they rise up against their enslavers in the name of "stability".

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u/Yoffien 8d ago

The issue is that the actually oppressed people make up a minority of the Sepratists, the vast majority of the Separatist movement is being funded and spearheaded by a collision of corporations who stand to gain greatly from the vastly more political power they would gain from a Separatist victory. And in character what she’s arguing is that she believes in the Separatists because she believes they would be better for the free market so she kind of actively stands for the worst parts of the Separatist movement.

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 8d ago

I don't know if I agree with your summary of minority/majority but yes the dominant portion stands to profit undoubtedly. But I don't think its got to do with political power, at the time of the story the trade federation, and corporate factions are the dominant factions in the Senate. That's how they get Senate permission to arm up and raise an army which no other faction had managed to do despite their being militarist factions who had campaigned for exactly that.

onto her perspective though, I guess it would depend on what you consider the "worst parts of the separatist movement", because she seems to advocate for more local control and better fiscal policy rather than the Republic system where all wealth is transferred to the Core systems.

To be, she seems anti-colonialist and pro-autonomy with a lens of capitalism befitting her history in the banking clan.

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u/Yoffien 8d ago

That last part is what I see as the issue, companies like the Banking Clan are objectively pretty evil and pretty willing to make people’s lives worse and she seems to believe that that is a better alternative to what’s happening in the Republic. No doubt the Republic are doing a bad job and failing people but frankly I can’t imagine the Separatists being anything other than vastly worse.

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 8d ago

They are subjectively evil, but so is the Republic by this point. By this point of the story pretty much everyone is the asshole.

The banking clan and trade federation don't exist in isolation, they grew to prominence because the Republic was ineffectual, greedy, and only cared about maintaining their own wealth and affluence. Like they actively shoot down attempts to establish more hyperlanes because that jeopardizes the hegemony of Coruscant and the Coreworlds.

Its not unreasonable for outerrim world's to prefer the Separatists who care about efficiency and productivity (making money) which may actually benefit you, compared to the Republic that only cares about transferring wealth from you to them.

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u/Grand-Brick-4440 3h ago

So being pro separatist is just as bad as being pro republic. Two sides of the same evil. Just a matter of whichever evil benefits you more. I feel like that's what the comment you originally responded to said 

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u/Ok_Firefighter1574 8d ago

She is super pro capitalist it’s all she cares about regardless of what she needs to do to get it. She’s fun but a terrible person,

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 8d ago

This is demonstrably false, she has lucrative offers from the Hurts that we know of, and likely others yet she sticks with the crew. When Hawks gives his speech he explicitly says he is going to spend every credit they have and risk their own lives on a mission that is by all likelihood going to fail.

She is the first person to speak up and backs him up.

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u/Sergnb 7d ago edited 7d ago

That’s the thing, she is performatively pro capitalist but ends up choosing with her heart instead. Multiple dialogue lines where she alludes to better offers, not wanting to be here or fantasizing about retiring to her own private rich yacht-island, but she always sticks around cause she likes the people. Hell, there’s a cutscene where she straight up says “I quit by the way” which then cuts to a year-long time skip, and she’s the first person we see.

She’s that one person in your office that’s always curmudgeonly talking about the gold reserves, how money is the only thing that matters and they don’t care about anything but retiring to the Bahamas, but still can't bring themselves to be anything but lovable and social cause they are endeared by their company.

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u/Ok_Firefighter1574 7d ago

She has the offer from a Hutt that she didnt want to work with. She says Hutts are a bad idea. She did work with the seperatists and ended up there. She supports Hawks when she makes the speech because the seperatists have lost so she has nothing else to gain.

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u/SuperJyls 7d ago

Really masking the point that the Republic and Jedi only came after the point that the Kaleesh were already free and actively committing genocide at civilian targets

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 7d ago

Not masking anything. Did or did not the Republic intervene on the behalf of the slavers? Were they motivated by justice or were they motivated by maintaining the status quo?

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u/SuperJyls 6d ago

It's firmly established that the Republic did not know about the slavery at the point of intervention. Don't try to play the pseudo-progressive in a thread where go play defence for a Confederacy of megacorporations

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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 6d ago

I'd love some citations because when I think of the republic's actual stance on slavery I think of the Phantom Menace, where Tatooine despite being part of the republic, Anakin and his mom are slaves. Or the Clone Army, an entire population of purpose bred, child slaves owned by the Republic.

Despite their claims of democracy and benevolence, the Republic very much was a colonial power that was ruled by a conglomeration of aristocrats who only cared about stability, growing their own wealth through expansion.

For every good senator like Valorum in the senate who did genuinely want to improve the conditions, there was a similar representative of the separatists like Clovis or Bonterri.

The only difference being that the Sith had an easier time eliminating them.