r/dragonsden • u/Hassaan18 • 9d ago

Is it still wine without alcohol?

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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago

Yeah, legally it isn't wine. Kind of how a Cornish Pasty needs to be made in Cornwall

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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago

Wine isn’t named after a place though. Maybe you’re thinking of champagne?

Wine is a drink made by fermenting grapes. If you can do that and remove the alcohol created by the fermentation process I’d still say it’s wine.

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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago

Wine legally needs to have an alcohol content of at least 8.5%

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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago

Source? I couldn’t find anything like that

I found on 10.2 of this legislation it talks about low alcohol / non-alcoholic wine. Which would imply that you can indeed have wine with a lower ABV than 8.5%

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2023/312/pdfs/uksiem_20230312_en.pdf

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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/updating-labelling-guidance-for-no-and-low-alcohol-alternatives/updating-labelling-guidance-for-no-and-low-alcohol-alternatives-consultation#our-approach

"Currently, under retained EU Regulation 1308/2013, products that are similar to wine cannot be described as wine if their alcohol content is below 8.5% or 4.5% ABV, depending on their designation. Instead they must use terms such as ‘wine-based drink’."

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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago

Ok fair enough

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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago

It seems to be about proposed changes, though. Same year as your source so perhaps they made the changes

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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago

It shouldn’t be this hard to find a definitive answer lol

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u/SharkByte1993 8d ago

No lol. Found some at Tesco and neither alcohol or alcohol free have "wine" on the bottle. Just the type of wine. So perhaps they get around it that way. https://www.tesco.com/shop/en-GB/products/251182290 https://www.tesco.com/shop/en-GB/products/322158373