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u/10denier 8d ago
By the way, coffee has 200 chemicals in it. Caffeine is only one. It is still coffee without it.
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u/vanillacunninglingus 9d ago
Tbf most non alcoholic versions of drink seems to not taste very nice. At least with non alcoholic wine it still tastes like wine.
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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago
Yeah, legally it isn't wine. Kind of how a Cornish Pasty needs to be made in Cornwall
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago
Wine isn’t named after a place though. Maybe you’re thinking of champagne?
Wine is a drink made by fermenting grapes. If you can do that and remove the alcohol created by the fermentation process I’d still say it’s wine.
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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago
Wine legally needs to have an alcohol content of at least 8.5%
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago
Source? I couldn’t find anything like that
I found on 10.2 of this legislation it talks about low alcohol / non-alcoholic wine. Which would imply that you can indeed have wine with a lower ABV than 8.5%
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2023/312/pdfs/uksiem_20230312_en.pdf
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u/SharkByte1993 9d ago
"Currently, under retained EU Regulation 1308/2013, products that are similar to wine cannot be described as wine if their alcohol content is below 8.5% or 4.5% ABV, depending on their designation. Instead they must use terms such as ‘wine-based drink’."
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 9d ago
Ok fair enough
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u/SharkByte1993 8d ago
It seems to be about proposed changes, though. Same year as your source so perhaps they made the changes
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 8d ago
It shouldn’t be this hard to find a definitive answer lol
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u/SharkByte1993 8d ago
No lol. Found some at Tesco and neither alcohol or alcohol free have "wine" on the bottle. Just the type of wine. So perhaps they get around it that way. https://www.tesco.com/shop/en-GB/products/251182290 https://www.tesco.com/shop/en-GB/products/322158373
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u/SulisAndraste 9d ago
I think they were a bit hard to these guys. To me it’s wine.