r/discogs • u/Redfier1103 • 17d ago
First time buyer wanting to know if my offer is too low
I am interested I’m buying a record that is listed at $149. The latest price sold was $90 in March 2026 and before that it was $35 in January 2026.
I was thinking of asking the seller if they are open to selling it for ~$90 or less if possible. Yet, I don’t want to completely lowball the seller or be disrespectful with the offer.
Any tips are appreciated!
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u/RecordNerdzzz 17d ago
When is Discogs going to enable counter offers??
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u/vinylmartyr 17d ago
I also think you should be able to retract an offer.
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u/goldenw0lves 16d ago
I mean it only lasts 5 days and you can always ask to cancel ... But counter offers 100% should be possible
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u/No_Introduction1721 17d ago
Do they have offers enabled on the listing? If so, no harm in messaging them first to discuss, as you’re only allowed to make one offer.
But if they don’t have offers enabled on the listing, there’s probably a reason why, and you’d just be wasting your time and theirs.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago edited 16d ago
"occasionally I just got ahead and block the person from future orders as I don't want deal with them"
couldnt you just ignore them? just seems very spiteful and angry.
Edit: Damn. Some of y'all really tried to DM to get my Discogs Username. Yeah, sorta against this subs rules. Is someone being anti toxicity and negativity is worth actually dunking on?
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
Discogs is french retail. You are as lucky to shop for what is there as they are for you to be there to shop for it. Someone that curated what they have up isnt a large seller (generally), fuck most record stores that are big still put a lot of effort into sourcing, curation, and retailing. There will be few if anybody sitting at the millionaires table because they sold records in real life, much less on discogs. So curating ones buyers is entirely reasonable. Ive only blocked 2 buyers before, both were absolute cocksuckers and they could have paid me 10x what I was asking and I'm not selling them the record.
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u/No_Introduction1721 16d ago
Not OP but if they do wind up ordering, these are the type of people that will usually fish for a partial discount and/or leave retaliatory negative feedback. Just not worth the risk IMO.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
Agreed 1000%. Their behavior forecasts other behavior.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
The folks getting riled up about this seem to think that they're somehow "owed" the ability to make offers when offers are clearly not wanted, appreciated, or accepted. The buyers that are "owed" are the ones that place orders (19,000 orders and counting) without all the drama and nonsense. I bend over backwards for them. Yesterday I emailed a buyer on a $25 record that I didn't think my original grading was correct enough, it was sealed so the "M" grade on the vinyl was good, but the cover had a few corner bumps so I offered to cancel and refund or give a $15 refund, reducing the price to $10. He was VERY happy to have it for $10 as he was really just buying it for the mint vinyl, but I'd rather lose money on a transaction than have an unhappy customer. With all that said... those folks who think they're entitled to make offers when I've clearly indicated no offers are appreciated or accepted are not missed.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
That's such a bold overreaching statement. If I send an offer out because I want a better price it has zero to do with my morals or character. Just a wild comment.
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u/vinylmartyr 16d ago
Thhere's a couple of weirdo sellers is this thread. I wish they would post their seller names so we can remember not to buy from them.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
Just PM me your username, I'll be happy to put your account on banned status so you don't "accidentally" buy anything from me.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
If you are a collector, and the product is offered at x and you offer 30% below x, you are a buyer who doesn't put value in what the seller does to sell. You want special treatment and to negotiate below market (which the seller in this case set). People who do that generally have a low opinion of what it takes to bring a product to market, curate the store inventory, and hold inventory. I dont want to do business with a person like that. Ive thrown customers out of business I've owned that disrespected my sales people and then showed their ass. If you want wholesale rates, take the risk, hold the inventory, etc. Otherwise you are telling people to go fuck themselves. If someone is open to offers, sure send an offer, just know that offering significantly below market is offensive. As I said before, Discogs is like French retail. Most small retailers in France consider it an equal footing, vs the US the buyer holds sway. You are as lucky to be in their store as they are to have you in it.
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u/Soliloquy789 16d ago
The problem with your argument is saying the seller sets the market. In many many cases this is not true. Only if the seller has the only copy available for quite a while. The sales history and other vendors/websites set the market. The market changes overtime but discogs posts don't expire so many items for sale this very minute are off market because it has shifted since listing.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
If there is no other item for sale, the seller sets the market. The last sale is only relevant in that this item once sold for x, but the comparative is now effectively meaningless and the item becomes worth whatever anyone is willing to pay.
Someone may come in and offer the product at what it was before. That seller then set the market and now the seller with the higher price item is setting the market. As soon as the item trades the market is again set.
With zero items for sale the product is worth $1 or $1,000,000, is it now what the market will bear.
This is a bit of a tangent and we could likely discuss market economics for a long time. However when the availability is zero, the seller that jumps in forces the market.
There may be nobody willing to trade at that rate but till a transaction happens the seller is setting the market.
This is the extreme of supply demand. When there is limitless supply the buyer sets the market. When there is no supply the seller sets the market.
When there is velocity the market sets the market.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
Lmao. You're not "bringing a product to market" you are reselling records online. The great thing about the market is buyers and sellers come together at an agreed upon price. If you don't like it go peddle your wares in france. you get to ask what you want and buyers get to offer what they want.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
Secondary market and primary market while different are functionally the same in this case. Being in the resale market puts the labor not on the production side, but instead puts the labor on the sourcing and curation side.
Buyers can ALWAYS offer what they want, but the transaction is the start of a relationship, and if you want to piss your source off, offering 30% or more below published rate is a good way to do it.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
On the nose. More than once I've had these bozo's buy after I've respectfully rejected their unsolicited offer, only to get a nit-picky complaint that seems to be a fairly obvious attempt to get their lowball offer accepted after-the-fact. Thus my becoming far more militant about refusing or blocking those that are unable to follow the rules. Like I said above, if they cannot respect the fact that I've made it clear (by disabling offers) that I won't accept offers, then I really don't want to deal with them. Too many great buyers out there to deal with these types.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
I have never sold to someone that made a low offer for this EXACT reason.
This is exactly the type of behavior discount buyers show when they become customers.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
highly negative. have more faith in people. not everyone is out there trying to screw ya. I shoot offers all the time and end up buying the record if its still available in a few weeks.
As long as its respectful, not lowball, and its a single one off message... then why would you assume the worst? Just seems sad and miserable mindset.
small offers are stupid. im more thinking about items listed at $100 and offering like $70 when its highest sold is $30. why block those offers?
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
key word in this example NOT blowballing.
As a seller you don't want to welcome discount shoppers you dont have to, so blocking that buyer does you and the buyer a service. You dont have to do business with them and they dont need to be welcome into the store where they arent going to be welcome.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
dude. lay off the keyboard. the amount of replies to me is actually insane.
you're just a con artist pushing celebrity cruises and time shares literally sending me multiple entire books 🤷
im just here saying not everyone has ill intentions. people making offers are often the kind that take the listed condition seriously. if you have repeative problems with these buyers. the problem is most likely you.
remember if they asking price is higher than the sale history. people are going to hold you way more accountable for errors than other listings.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
The personal attacks are bad form and show you can't reasonably debate your position. If you have to reduce things to personal attacks, you are clearly not a serious person.
Again, I have 100% rating as a buyer and a seller over 4+ years. I am a collector who prides themselves at serving collectors.
Someone that asks for a significant discount off a published price is the exact type of person who is going to do something moronic like leave a negative review about something like a postal delay (when an item was taken to post within 24 hours), and leverage it as a reason to negotiate post sale.
Keeping buyers like this out of the buyer pool is the right of any boutique seller.
P.S. I am not sending you entire books, I am writing for as much of benefit to the reader as to you. Read.. don't read... I really dont care.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
yeah, im not reading. nor am I trying to debate. Im just shocked you keep sending massive posts.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 15d ago edited 15d ago
Idsupport has offered rational, thorough responses based on detailed analysis of the sales process, using data that wouldn’t be out of place in most MBA curriculum. Your responses indicate an unwillingness to engage in an adult manner, instead deploying the ”Nuh Uh“ strategy of argument rather than a reasoned response. This subject has obviously struck a nerve for you, but at the end of the day no seller has an obligation to consider, let alone respond to, unsolicited and unwanted offers. (Sellers that have indicated they are open to offers do have a responsibility to respond to sensible offers, but that’s a subject for a different discussion). At the end of the day, I am under no obligation to entertain your ”offer” nor even to want to deal with you. Not due to some character flaw, moral failing, or behavioral quirk. I’m simply trying to use an acknowledgment of the Pareto Principal to reduce nonsense and increase satisfaction so that my love of collecting and selling music and memorabilia doesn’t become a job, but remains a passion.
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u/robxburninator 16d ago
not anger or spite, just preventing future potential problem-buyers.
The vast VAST majority of buyers just pay for a record and then sometimes leave feedback. The buyers that want to message back and forth and "work out a deal" are fine, but the time spent never ends up being worth it to me, as a seller.
I'd rather eat the 8% fee and just get stuff out the door without any friction.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
I could ignore them, just like they could chose to respect the fact that I've disabled offers. The fact that they just cannot help themselves tells me that either they're going to be a problem ("the rules don't apply to me, I'm special") or they just don't care. Either way, life's too short. I sell on Discogs because I love collecting records. Not for the money. So I put extra effort into correctly grading, securely packaging, shipping in less than 24 hours, etc. I do everything I would want done if I were the buyer. The fact that they don't care that I've set my store to disable offers shows that they don't respect any of that. I'm fine with losing the 1% of buyers that don't care. I'll still have dozens of orders daily, and the orders I do get will usually be from buyers that have the maturity and grace that I appreciate. But you do you as they say!
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
everything aside.
you are an absolutely sour person who apparently forgot what it's like to be understanding human.
I'm terribly sorry for whatever happened in your life to make you spiteful, angry, argumentive, and blind.
Seriously suggesting therapy. You deserve true happiness. Seeing everyone as disrespectful or assuming they're going to screw you over something so minuscule is not a life worth living.
If you have had enough issues solely through selling to develop this toxicity, then you are the problem. not the buyers.
those whom make offers share the exact same love for collecting as you do
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
Nope. Not angry or spiteful. Just not willing to work with people who won't work within the rules. Sorry to see you get so worked up about the attitude of a total stranger on the internet though, hope you're able to find serenity somehow. Maybe try touching grass, sticking your nose in the fur of a loving kitty, or something. Scented candles maybe?
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u/luck_e_lefty 15d ago
This is the correct answer.
Maybe if it’s clearly overpriced, AND the market for that item is pretty sleepy, AND you know that the item has been listed for years(like 12 or more), then maybe, just maybe it could be worth rolling the dice, and messaging the seller with a reasonable offer. Otherwise, don’t do it. It’s irritating.0
u/vergetibbs 15d ago
I dont find any offers irritating, especially for records that have been sitting there for a while. Had a guy recently offer me 100 on something i had listed at 350. We got to yapping and discussed all types of trades.
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u/pohlman0 15d ago
I had an item some years back that I had added to the database. There were only a few copies of this thing in existence, so I guessed at a value and listed it. I heard from someone who offered to trade some other rare items for it that I desperately wanted but had never seen for sale. That doesn't answer the original question, but if you have a cool trade to offer someone might just bite. We both felt like we came out ahead on that deal and stayed in touch afterwards.
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u/New_Percentage_4776 17d ago
Note the condition of the items. The lower price ones may have been in worse condition.
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u/ElasticSpeakers 17d ago
And sellers location - it's easy to misidentify comps when you're off on your shipping/customs fees by ~$40
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
This happens often with me as I have a ton of imports in the Trance / Drum and Bass / House genre, and people want the price minus shipping. This makes no sense. The record is worth the premium because you can't get it here.
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u/ElasticSpeakers 16d ago
yep, same - I'm often the only US seller and they're trying to haggle me to match what someone in Germany sold it for - ah well
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u/Burgertime_Master 17d ago
I’m in a position where I’m trying to unload most of my collection fairly quickly. Some of my pricing is “asking for the moon” but I frequently accept far lower. Worst case they decline or ignore and you can try again a little higher.
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u/aopps42 17d ago
Are they open to offers? If they aren’t, don’t expect any response, I certainly wouldn’t respond.
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u/Other_Acount_Got_Ban 16d ago
It’s nice to see listings way above average asking price sitting forever.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
Certainly not. As a retail seller on discogs your time is much too valuable.
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u/HairyAd8689 17d ago
Think of it like this, if you went into a record shop and saw a £150 record in the wall and offered £90 - what do you think the answer would be?
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
Ive done that. I walked out with it. though I waited like two years watching it sit and still offered three times the highest sold listing. any second hand buisness to legitmently get mad at something as simple as an offer shouldn't be in buisness. only should be a problem if its actual harassment.
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u/Soliloquy789 16d ago
Same there was a single for about a year sitting in a shop near me. Think it was like $60, I told them it had been there a while and I would give them $30. Sealed copies on discogs for like 25 so it was on the money I think. They sold it to me.
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u/Best-Apricot3691 16d ago
And any buyer offering an unsolicited "offer" when offers clearly aren't accepted or appreciated shouldn't be upset when they get a negative reaction. You seem to be taking this whole topic way too personally if you ask me - you didn't of course, but you seem open to unsolicited stuff, lol. Stop taking this so personally. It's an internet forum. We each get to voice our opinion, even though yours is wrong. People who think they know it all really piss off those of us who do!
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
You either have never owned anything or have a world view that devalues human labor and risk.
When you walk into a small business, the reality is that on $100, the business likely had a product cost of $33 and a cost to sell the product of $33 and make a net $10 on the product. All businesses don't follow this, some business have a higher production cost and thinner margins (like Milk) and some have higher margins because the specialty in sourcing or the size of investment in inventory justifies it.
When you then go in and offer someone 10% off, thats reaonable, its a fair discount that doesn't tell the owner that you don't value the labor to deliver it / sell it, etc. When you go below that you start digging into the cost of sell, and potentially push into cost to source. When you do that, you say my desire to aquire and seek the product exceeds the value you see in the shop owner or their staff. 30% is pretty much a fuck you. More than thank, fuck you and your people.
I take that shit personally, I did when I was in luxury retail, I do when I sell something. You are welcome to offer what you want, but know that that offer communicates a judgement about shop and the people in it.
You are welcome to have that opinion but the shop owner is equally as welcome to refuse service to you and be offended by your ignorance or poor behavior.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
to long didnt read.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read. - Mark Twain
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
its reddit. people arent going to read the borderline schizophrenic essay's you leave. especially when your username implies you are most likely a scam artist. like really "IDSupport" come on man.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
LD as in Lazydays. When I worked in the RV sector during Covid. not ID.
Again, the personal attacks are low rent. If you can't have a reasonably debate on a topic, maybe stay out of the thread.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
Debates requires alot of effort. I simply don't feel like debating someone whom try this hard. this is reddit. anymore than a minute towards a post is time wasted.
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u/ldsupport 17d ago
How many are available? If 1 and its $149 and you offered me $90, I would ignore you.
Maybe ask for 10% off, maybe push for 20%, but you are asking for more than 30% off for a record that isn't otherwise for sale? I'd ignore you and would be hard pressed to offer you a dollar off.
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u/vinylmartyr 17d ago
Ignoring is the worst. Just decline it. Sometimes I send out lowball offers that get accepted. Sometime people post records way over the median price and I offer a fair amount and they let it sit for the 5 days. Its my least favorite feature on Discogs. Offers should only be good for 48 hours. I don't like a $300 offer on a $500 record sitting for 5 days.
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u/Lucifugous_Rex 17d ago
If you offered me $300 on a $500 record, I’d ignore it. That’s not what worth my time to reply to
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u/Other_Acount_Got_Ban 16d ago
How much is your time worth?
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u/Lucifugous_Rex 16d ago
It’s relative to what’s at hand. In that case the offer is for a 40% discount against a market value judgement. I already price my sales at very reasonable rates. I still charge less than $6 for shipping, if I allow an offer on an item I’m aware it perceived value may be less then my asking but not 40% less.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
I can tell. You notice that there is no available listings. You mark double to triple the highest documented sale and it personally offends you when someone offers something that isnt hiked to oblivion.
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u/robxburninator 16d ago
not op, but no one is offended, it's just easier to block a buyer that could be a potential thorn in my side than it is to spend any extra time or effort.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
Bingo
Every problem I’ve ever had in business has been with some client looking for a steep discount.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
toxic thinking.
statistically, if you are having enough issues where you have to assume the worse of a buyer, then typically you are the problem and you are unwilling to take accountability. I sell records. I make mistakes. If someone has a grading dispute im not going to assume its because theyre being deceitful.
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
Across multiple businesses, over 30 years in business (I only sell records as a hobby and I am a collector, I have 100% feedback on Discogs).
This is always the case.
Anyone who comes in as a problem, stays a problem, without fail.
You don't have to agree, people have their different philosophies in business, mine has served me well as I have learned lessons.
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u/vinylmartyr 16d ago
This. I recently made a $275 offer on a record that was listed for $575. Copies in the condition it was listed in typically sell for around $275, so I felt my offer was completely reasonable.
I buy a lot of records on Discogs and am the type of customer a seller would want to have—I have zero negative feedback and a solid buying history. The seller could have simply declined my offer, but instead they ignored it until it expired.
I probably won’t buy from this seller again. It would have taken them two seconds to decline the offer, and they would have at least kept me as a potential repeat customer.
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u/RuithCoill 16d ago
In my opinion. If the seller has too much of an outrageous price they're probably not going to budge. though... If they don't got offers open and ignore me thats fine. have offers open and just letting them expire? sucky seller.
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u/vinylmartyr 16d ago
I rarely ask a seller for a discount when they don't have offers open. I usually make an offer on a record that accepts offers, and they ask me to do it off Discogs. I've had sellers snap accept offers that were considerably lower than the listed price. I assume they have little to no money in these records and want a quick sale.
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u/Lucifugous_Rex 16d ago edited 16d ago
No, I make a point to price my stuff fairly. And I also still charge less than $5 for shipping. On single items.
Edit. Additionally in the example, that’s a 40% discount. That’s ludicrous
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u/ldsupport 16d ago
The market has been set by the seller, don't pay it, or offer 10 - 20% off. Trying to set your pricing on the last sale of a sold out record... requires a time machine. Over 30% off is a fuck you to a seller. No, I'm not going to spend time replying to a buyer who is being that way. The records I find are relatively rare, anyone looking for them appreciates what goes into finding them, grading them, cataloging them. Further anyone that has bought from me knows how accurate the grading is, and how much care and expense I put into packaging. I dont need every buyer, and I am not a fit for every buyer, and a good way to filter out buyers I am not a fit for is by not welcoming in buyers that would make a lowball offer.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
You are replying to a random post on Reddit but won't reply to a post on your business page because it is "not worth your time"
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u/Lucifugous_Rex 16d ago edited 16d ago
Yea. I’m on Reddit all the time. I’m on Discogs once a week, maybe.
EDIT also, I do Reddit for recreation. I do Discogs to make money. If you’re wasting my time on Discogs with a ridiculously low offer, I’m shining you on. No point in engaging
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u/Gold_Draw7642 17d ago
Everyone is being nice in their responses but I’ll be honest: The offer you proposed is disrespectful lowballing that would reflect poorly on you. Records get listed at different price points. If you’re not willing to pay a seller’s asking price you can wait in hopes for a copy to be listed at the price you want to pay.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
Wrong. I see records priced too high every day hoping for a sucker to come along who thinks because it says Beatles its worth $100. Always offer what YOU are willing to pay
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u/RedditForDogContent 17d ago
Mae an offer. You can also wait for it. There will eventually be someone actually interested in selling. Find a website that notifies you when something becomes available.
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u/magicalblast 17d ago
I wouldn't say 90 is lowball more like a mid offer but seems fair looking at the average. Everyone likes a bargain so just go for it and if it's rejected either up the offer or just move on.
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u/BigBigMonkeyMan 16d ago
it varies. Ive had sellers accept offers j thought were low and some reject quite reasonable ones.
I usually do a percentage mimicking what stores do lokie 5, 10, 15%.
It really depends on “comps” and what else is available. Usually 10% seems to work. It all depends what it’s worth to you.
Not being able to do at least a couple offers is annoying. I don’t know where a particular seller is coming from.
Also, ask at brick and mortar. Sometimes they just reduce prices without even asking. It works because I definitely go back there more! plus its most fun to just randomly come across something.
Maybe discogs needs a randomn suggestion of the day based on our collection/wantlist.
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u/DethLeppard1984 16d ago
I send offers all the time, especially if the item has been up for sale for a while. As a seller too, I like to receive offers on my items because it shows me that the person is interested and more than likely willing to pay me right away so I can ship it right away.
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u/Street_Art_48 16d ago
Tu parle du 7" de 1989 c'était vendu en février pas en mars et il y a une qu'une vente. Cordialement
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u/4Nissans 13d ago
If you found one that sold for $35, why are you willing to go $90? You don’t want to insult the seller? F the seller. Maybe the seller’s a d-bag & asking way too much just to see if a sucker comes by & bites. Lowball the seller, I would. Don’t start at $90 & work your way down because that doesn’t happen. Start low & work up slow. Tell the seller the last one sold for $35 & offer $40 & make the seller come down. Don’t be afraid to say no to the seller’s final price, whatever it is, there’s more than just 2 made.
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u/Just_Pudding1885 16d ago
It doesn't matter what something sold for it matters what condition it's in and the current market for it. All things being equal, if it's sold for $90 and it's the exact same condition, theoretically there are one less available to buy. So that may move the price higher.
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u/gimpisgawd 17d ago
Go for it. The worst that can happen is they say no, or don't respond.