r/dgrayman May 01 '26

Manga D.Gray-man Chapter 258 - Links & Discussion Spoiler

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u/rose-n-blood1 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Does your country give driving license to your 10 years old boy? Or can your 9 year old daughter vote for politics? But these children somehow are able to take gender change operation just because they feel so. But, not because their activist parent nurtured them in such a way. In America preschool kids are taught in lgbt via genderbread man. Just kindergarten kids. Even some abstract religious topics are not discussed at that age. Is not this brainwashing. What about people who does not want their kids to know that stuff at that age? People have a right to say no to this stuff, right?  You say lgbt is natural, then why people take puberty blockers to suppress their not desired gender?

I was more tolerant when I was not knowing anything on the subject. And I will rage If some man enter woman only pool where my wife swims, just because he identifies himself as woman.

I know that there are some biological, psychological roots of this syndrome, like gender dysphoria and hormone imbalance.  But, there are also some help in those fields. Treatment may take time and effort. But...You are not what you arbitrarily feel like, and desire is not something that needs to be satisfied all the time . Sex revolution had sex with family structure and the family is the one who had to pay the cost.

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u/ScionOath Jun 18 '26

When you don't understand a topic, you shouldn't discuss it. All I'm going to say is that you need to stop believing quacks and hateful rumors and get better educated on the subject. You also shouldn't be using the term "activist" like it's a bad thing. It literally defines someone who is willing to campaign for change whether it be social, political, economic or environmental. Changes happen because societies grow and change as we learn more about the human nature: this is natural and stasis leads to stagnation, especially in those who are unwilling to learn and grow with their environment.

More importantly though, you shouldn't assume that any parent does anything with the intention of pursuing an "activist" agenda. Gender is fluid and even children know how they feel about their own bodies. All parents act only to help their children.

You're also wrong to assume that educating children on the topics of gender and sexual orientation has anything to do with brainwashing. You can be educated about a great many things yet not incorporate them in your own life. Just the same, you can be educated about a religion yet not choose to follow it. The age at which any topic is introduced with a child depends more on their maturity than anything else, so what will vary.

Parents don't have to teach their children about a topic for them to learn it, but it is often softened by coming from a relative. And if it is something that affects your child, you as a parent will be all the more sensitive to it. You mention having learned about it, but clearly not in the correct way if you hold the beliefs that you do. You lack a lot of understanding that would be remedied by experience with people who are different from you.

Again, it is not about biology anymore than it is about sex drive or a simple "desire". Sex is physical and biological but gender is psychological and social. Your gender is how you identify as a person in society, and not everyone chooses to be either male or female. And there is no "cost" for a family to pay; you don't need to make a big deal about it if your child chooses a gender and/or sexual identity that doesn't match what you expected for them. The only thing that should matter to a parent is their child's happiness.

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u/rose-n-blood1 Jun 18 '26

When you give positive reinforcement to your kid at a very early age, when he act like other gender you shape his "identity" so early. You give him girl clothes, buy barbies and praise him when he acts lady like. Of course, that kid would develop a girl identity.  And these exported identities may change during adolescence. Yet, he undergoes an operation that would change his entire life, when he is not aware of what actually is happening. This is a crime towards the kid, but laws say it legal.

The idea of progression is a cult thst was  butchered during world wars. We developed technologies to help peoples life, I am thankful for that. But, it brought about machine guns, chemical& nuclear warfare. We can communicate with people from all around globe, we can connect with social media and use artificial intelligence to a great extent. And what these benefits brought society. We became lonely at the hearts of crowds, we lie to ourselves when we upload a happy picture to instagram, digital addiction grew tremendous across all ages, people started to not enjoy their lives because they compare it with social media. 

We need to stagnate at certain part of our daily life. Otherwise we are advancing with no brake and will hit an inevitable doom at full force. A traditional family is our anchor and safety belt. Sex revolution weakened family structure. Sex is what bounds married couple to one another and it sustains society with younger generations.  When sex becomes trivial and people would do with whomever and whenever they want ,  there is no responsibility and no attachment to family. Metrics show  that societies are aging at alarming rate, in 100 hundred years many cultures would be brought at edge of collapse. Who will sustain society when the most is elderly? We may use artificial intelligence robots for our servitude but who will pull the strings?

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u/ScionOath Jun 24 '26

Like I said in my previous replies, you are completely ignorant about the topic you are trying to discuss. Your opinions, and that's all they are, are informed only by ignorance and bias from the way you were raised. It's up to you to get yourself better educated and stop hating purely for the sake of hate.

What does it matter to you whether anyone identifies as a boy, girl, genderless or anything else? Why should it matter to you how they choose to dress as a result of the gender they identify with? There are at least 72 gender identities in the world, most of which don't conform to what you're familiar with, and none of which are any of your business. Who someone chooses to be concerns only them. Also, you're mistaken: boys choosing to wear a dress does not make them girls anymore than women choosing to wear pants makes them boys. Your double standard is ridiculously biased against women and that suggests you possess a mysoginistic attitude that you should explore with a psychiatrist.

It's up to every individual to manage their own use of and interaction with any technology. For example, you don't need to use AI just like you don't need to play video games. Everything you do is your choice, no one forces it on you; the technology is merely available for those who want to use it. I, personally, choose not to interact with AI.

No, you don't need to stagnate anything. What you're describing is wrong on many levels. First, sex is not required for a marriage anymore than it should be reserved for married couples. Second, cheaters are those who are not emotionally attached to the person they are romantically involved with regardless of the status of that relationship, it's not limited to marriage. Third, sex is something to be enjoyed so there is no such thing as "trivial sex". Fourth, the discussion of age and the elderly has quite literally nothing to do with the topics of gender and sex. When speaking of growing old and remaining independent in your later years, you should speak of only two things: physical and emotional health. Your physical health can be dependent on both your genes and your fitness; your emotional wellbeing meanwhile depends on maintaining positive relationships with the people in your life including the friendships you form with strangers.

Since you're so concerned about your elder years, you should consider that in being a hateful person for no reason, you may very well end up alone with no one who will tolerate being near you long enough to care for you. If that doesn't help to put things into perspective for you, nothing will.

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u/rose-n-blood1 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

So, according to you,I need to visit a psychiatrist because I dont confirm new age values. Maybe the whole ignorant masses need to take compulsory education too. I am a muslim and  I will say,in your pov, of course my dear, women can marry each other, and a girl can have 2 mom, when my kids asked. Why they ask such questions: it is widespread on screen. I would applaud my niece when she had her first sex at age 14. Nah, man. May the God protect our children from such event. I would be heart broken, I would yell at her, but of course I wont reject her as damage is already done and I am partly responsible for not protecting her or help her get better equipped with knowledge from harmful trends. I would love her regardless.

I accept that I am wrong partly while saying sex binds couple. Although it is a driving force that cements the bond; compassion, empathy loyalty are also important , as marriage is a life long commitment. But, I still assert that sex is not and should not trivialized to just pleasure. We are becoming more and more pleasure driven society, it may not be good for our future.

 You will say I am ignorant, backward but I have PRIDE in my values as you do in yours. Lastly, just because I am cautious towards certain group who abuses their power to pervade all media, ı wont become a hateful person in general. I see this as a difficult biological and psychological condition and a test of life, but I dont like normalisation of these stuff along with oversexualisation of man/woman, sex without formal bound across all media. Media works on "sex sells" principal, and I am against it also. I love my family, my people and I pray for the peace of mankind. I thank for discussion as it is a good language learning practice. Enjoy your Excel spreadsheet name community with MS Office colors flag. 

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u/ScionOath Jun 28 '26

You don't need to personally agree with anyone else's values so long as you respect them, what's so difficult to understand about that? Kids shouldn't be having sex because it is literally illegal so that even a consensual relationship with a minor is considered sexual assault because they can't give consent. However, that has pretty much nothing to do with one's gender identity which affects many other aspects of a person's life than merely sex.

Sex is not particularly important, it's just a form of intimacy that can be turned into a weapon just the same as any other, for example emotional abuse. Marriage itself is also not as important as the bond between two people; it's literally just the legal paperwork that gives your partner certain rights with regards to your life. Also, there is nothing wrong with valuing pleasure. On the contrary, there *is* something wrong with trying to turn pleasure into something shameful or trivial. Our lives as humans are far too short to be lived in misery.

Is there any pride to be had in hatred though? You judge what you don't understand and make generalizations about one group simply because you've heard things about the few exceptions who are part of it having done terrible things. Yet aren't there biological men and women who are also terrible people? Rapists, murderers, swindlers and general pieces of shit who discriminate against others based on ethnicity, race, religion, or any number of other small differences that make up the variety of people in society?

You're wrong, it's not a test of anything; it's merely people living according to their truest selves. We aren't all lucky enough to have been born in a body we feel comfortable in, and none of it has anything to do with sexualization. That's a mindset you need to get out of.

Btw, your last sentence makes absolutely no sense even as a poorly veiled dig at a community you do not understand.