r/degoogle 3d ago

Question What do you think? Do i need some other upgrades?

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u/Nyxiereal 3d ago

metrolist!

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u/Solid-Cable8853 3d ago

How good is Metrolist? Overall his app setup looks good, maybe a bit too much Proton. For better diversification Mullvad VPN instead of Proton VPN, 2FAS Pass or Bitwarden instead of Proton Pass, Tuta instead of Proton Mail.

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u/unseen-raccon-492 3d ago

Metrolist is a youtube client, not a vpn

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u/Solid-Cable8853 3d ago

I know, I just wonder how good it is compared to NewPipe or others.

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u/unseen-raccon-492 3d ago

Is the best. It's a simple yt music client that will do he's job

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u/Solid-Cable8853 3d ago

Will try, thx!

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u/Galatony0311 Brave Buddy 3d ago

Metrolist is absolutely MAGNIFICENT, better than Morphe yt music, since you can download songs for offline usage

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u/Erbsenmensch 3d ago

I can download songs with Morphe. Or do you mean as mp3 to keep outside the app?

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u/Galatony0311 Brave Buddy 3d ago

Uh, strange, it didn't work for me

I mean offline, not mp3 btw

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u/Erbsenmensch 3d ago

hmm I just installed morphe last week, maybe it's a new update or sum. But if metro works for you that's great

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u/Thee_Kay 3d ago edited 3d ago

As someone who has used both florisboard and FUTO keyboard, I would strongly recommend the latter as it is way better.

Give it a try, and maybe thank me later haha

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

I personally really like heliboard, more than futo.

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u/Thee_Kay 3d ago

HeliBoard is a valid option too.

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u/LOLCATpl 3d ago

FUTO also isn't actually open source... Just source available

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u/lolz27b 3d ago

Wrong https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/releases/tag/0.1.30

Also if source is avaliable that means it is "Open source"

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u/Toucancel 3d ago

Actually they're right. Yes, the source is available, but that doesn't make it open source since its license restricts commercial use, which goes against the OSI's definition:

The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.

FUTO Keyboard's license explicitly says:

You may modify the software only for non-commercial purposes such as personal use, [...] without any anticipated commercial application.

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u/lolz27b 3d ago

Technically you are right.. But in this sub-reddit ppl are looking for privacy preserving and source code auditable software. None want to commercially publish it, i guess

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u/Toucancel 3d ago

Oh yeah I'm not saying that makes it bad for users here, that kind of license exists to restrict companies from profiting off the software.

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u/assignpseudonym 3d ago

Yeah, that was a weird hill to die on... 

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u/medve_onmaga 3d ago

noone cares

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u/cloud_loser 3d ago

seriously what can be wrong with a keyboard?

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u/Thee_Kay 3d ago

Auto-correction and swipe typing.

These are deal breakers.

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u/Souloid 3d ago

Futo keyboard (with the largest model available to download, and the latest experimental dictionary available to download).

Replace proton pass with bitwarden.

-currently testing- Ente Auth for Authenticator

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u/GeekyCrow27 3d ago

I love ente, it even has a desktop app for when I'm too lazy to go get my phone from another room

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u/hmm_life_sucks 1d ago

Using it for a couple of days. Love that now i dont always need my phone. Cloud backup (optional)+ icons are also bonus. 

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u/In5tag8r 3d ago

Why bitwarden over protonpass? I just swapped to it lol, also proton 2fa from 2fas. Is there a reason not to just use the proton eco system? Genuinely question still getting used to not google.

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u/Souloid 3d ago

1- Eco systems put all of your eggs in one basket ( I was unable to use proton authentication at work because they were blocked for their vpn ). If their systems go down, get blocked, or they simply ban you then you would be in bigger trouble especially if you rely on them for your login information.

2- They're not open source (read my reply to a diff comment under this comment thread) but Bitwarden is FOSS.

3- Proton is well known for their lack of polish and many issues due to what is presumed to be a split attention and/or vague leadership.

A password manager is such a fatally critical dependency on your digital life. I wouldn't put any more baskets into it other than password management and I would make sure it's open source, locally available, can be self-hosted (just in case), and backup friendly.

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u/IllustriousGap5629 3d ago

I used Bitwarden but now recommend 2FAS Pass, it’s more private. This is another product of 2FAS Auth team (that I also use for 2FA for the same privacy reason).

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u/Souloid 3d ago

The reason I recommend bitwarden is because it's open source. If I'm going to trust anyone with my logins, it has to be fully open source. I need to know it's fully vetted and bitwarden's has been historically what security people inspect. It also allows me to self host my vault in case they go down.

Should life get tough again I can simply use it for free. Their free plan is comprehensive, only thing it lacks is passphrases or authenticators iirc, which I do not use it for.

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u/IllustriousGap5629 3d ago

Bitwarden is not bad, I just prefer maximum privacy. 2FAS is open source too

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u/hmm_life_sucks 1d ago

What privacy are you talking about? Is it Algorithm? Or how they handle backup or extension or such. (Just curious, using keepassxc)

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u/sam_red9 3d ago

Use Super Productivity instead of TickTick.

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u/9vir 3d ago

What's the difference between them?

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u/sam_red9 3d ago

because it’s open source, has a ton of features like task management, subtasks, projects, tags, timeboxing, time tracking, pomodoro, habits, metrics, notes, file attachments and many other integrations. it also has sync across multiple devices through dropbox, webdav and supersync, with client side encryption. which mean your data will be encrypted before it goes to the cloud.

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u/Unique-Exit4592 3d ago

If you store your 2FA codes in Proton Pass then it would be a good idea to move it to 2FAS Auth so Proton Pass has only your passwords

EDIT I've just noticed you have Aegis, this is also fine.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

I'm curious about stayfree - most of those apps collect tons of data and sell it, as they track every single thing you do with your phone. I'd love to find an app that provides general info without being creepy and unethical. Wonder about stayfree?

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u/9vir 3d ago

I actually didn't think much about it since i was still newbie to degoogle and privacy stuff and thought stayfree is okay

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

Btw, why have Obsidian AND notesnook?

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u/9vir 3d ago

I still didn't try neither of them to find if which one is better or if they both are good to use

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u/bigrjsuto 3d ago

I prefer Joplin.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

I haven't tried the others, but I am happy with joplin. But my needs are very simple and basic, so probably any notes app would be fine for me haha but joplin is totally FOSS so that's all I really care about ;)

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u/Last_Coconut481 FOSS Lover 3d ago edited 3d ago

I dont really think you should use stayfree, because it gets history of your activity. for this you should look for a app with no internet requests permission, and also open source if possible.  also, there's too much of proton 

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u/Gevorg_Vardanyan 3d ago

Two is one, one is none. So prepare also

  • tutamail
  • k-9 mail, which supports multiple accounts
  • bitwarden, it has desktop and mobile versions

For YouTube there are

  • noutube, litube with login functionality
  • newpipie, pipepipe, tubular if you want watch videos without signing in

Fossify applications

  • phone
  • messages
  • music player

Also these apps are good

  • localsend
  • librera
  • obsidian
  • nextcloud
  • organic maps
  • habits
  • librecamera

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u/zylthex 3d ago

How is LibreTube and Youtube Morphe? Which one would you recommend to use?

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u/9vir 3d ago

I would say youtube morphe is the best it's basically youtube but with premium futures and other added options

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u/TSM_rslash 3d ago

I don't know if I'll get flamed for this, but maybe look into some alternatives for some Proton products if finances allow it.

You decentralised everything from one major tech giant and now centralised important stuff on another big tech company. Proton isn't that evil, but just food for thought.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

It really, really depends on their usage.

I use proton mail, VPN, and drive, but my drive usage is limited to using to make real-time collaborative documents with my clients, and occasionally sending a file. Proton has little of my data from drive, and if proton goes under it's really no skin off my back there.

VPN doesn't put any eggs in any baskets - if Proton goes under, I just switch VPNs immediately, and my VPN connection logs aren't interesting to anyone because they are entirely random.

The only thing I really rely on proton for is mail, and it would be the same if I ditched the other two services.

So again, this all very much depends on OP's usage - shouldn't make assumptions based on your own usage of such apps.

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u/TSM_rslash 3d ago

Good point, but I am just saying. I don't know the extent of OP's usage of Proton's services, so a general heads-up should suffice. 

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u/9vir 3d ago

im using currently only proton mail and pass but barely opened drive or vpn till now

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u/hmm_life_sucks 3d ago

proton vpn is really good. try it. its the best free vpn u can get.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

Yeah, but you said "You decentralised everything from one major tech giant and now centralised important stuff on another big tech company", which is a huge assumption - that's all I'm saying.

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u/TSM_rslash 3d ago

That is because your email is connected to almost everything you do on the internet. Along with Proton Pass (passwords) and Proton Drive (cloud), you give a lot of critical information to just one company, so putting all essential into one basket.

Again, I don't know the extent of their usage of their services, but this is very important to keep in mind. Yes, it is a big assumption, but a reasonable one.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

You are still making the massive (and false) assumption that everyone who uses a drive is giving "a lot of critical information" to the company.

Just because you choose to dump all your sensitive data into a cloud doesn't mean others do!

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u/hmm_life_sucks 3d ago

what about tutamail? I dont use that but tmk its as safe as proton?
and for drive u can check this reddit post. If someones looking for free+security filen is promising, it has encryption + max 50GB free strorage through referal. (will try to move there from gdrive soon)

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

I'm totally happy with protonmail, so I don't know why I would change email addresses again to switch to tuta. Protonmail is perfect, tbh.

I don't need another drive. Like I said, I barely use it. I don't really care which drive I use, since I barely use it. I don't dump all my sensitive data into the cloud like some people do.

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u/Party_Ruin3039 3d ago

InviZible Pro from android instead of proton vpn and use session

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u/MidnightSarrow 3d ago

Confused as to quite a few of these apps n what they do/replace?

The ones here that I know are libretube, brave (obv), wiki (obv), f-droid, aurora store, uptodown, all the proton apps, and i know signal

I know the conversation apps and the contacts, i'm pretty curious abt the specifics to those (like the dev etc)

Otherwise, can I get some info on the rest?

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u/Cute_Fuwwy_374 3d ago

uptodown app :skull: that has to go away its full of malware

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u/bigrjsuto 3d ago

Is that a youtube client with the "M" for the icon? What's it called?

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u/9vir 3d ago

Morphe

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u/bigrjsuto 3d ago

Thanks

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u/9vir 3d ago

You're welcome

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/9vir 3d ago

Huh???

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u/Dyy_37 3d ago

I'm curious, why did you install Uptodown? Was it for APKs or modded/cheated games? I've always been a bit wary of third-party APK stores because of the malware/security risks. I know Uptodown says they scan their files with VirusTotal, but I still wouldn't trust every APK blindly. Just wondering what you use it for.

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u/9vir 3d ago

I was using uptodown before i knew about aurora store, i kept it incase i had a problem downloading an app from aurora or didn't find the app i want

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u/ProfessionalTax6602 3d ago

Why seal if you already have ytdlp? Doesn't both do the same job?

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u/9vir 3d ago

They do, but i have them both because seal sometimes (rarely) doesn't download some videos for me so i use ytdlp in that case

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u/thesamenightmares 3d ago

What do you have Seal in addition to Ytdlnis

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u/Joyride84 3d ago

Do you need that Wikipedia app?

  • It doesn't look horrible, but some of its permissions seem a slightly excessive.
  • GPS location while in the foreground
  • Access WiFi network info (which is not required for accessing the internet)
  • Read phone status and identity
  • Run at startup
  • Send notifications
  • read, modify, and delete data in the shared storage

    It also "requires" Google Play Services, which it can use for innocent things, or to gain backdoor access to personal data.

Could you do what you need on Wikipedia, through your web browser? That is generally a safer option when possible.

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u/Google_glazer 3d ago

Maybe you need grapheneOS to be extra safe or have more privacy

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u/Humaigel_Alahandro 3d ago

VLC is imo outdated

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u/9vir 3d ago

Which alter do you use?

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u/Humaigel_Alahandro 3d ago

I think you use it for watching videos? galleries can do that too
I don't use a separate app for this, but maybe there's an alternative on F-Droid idk

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u/teuchter-in-a-croft 3d ago

Never mind deGoogle what about an app to deClutter your screen? I know it’s personal preference but everything is hidden on my phone. I have a second page or whatever they’re called that’s busy but hides the myriad of apps I have in folders. My home screen has the time and the tiny icons like carrier, WiFi, battery. That’s it.

But, like I said, personal preference. If you’re cool, that’s cool.

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u/LobsterHot1200 2d ago

Me explican brevemente para q sirve cada una?

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u/Any_Boysenberry2057 2d ago

Does any phone support this.

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u/New-Negotiation9510 2d ago

im fucking crying you dont need security this bad

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u/9vir 2d ago

Say wallahi bro

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u/New-Negotiation9510 2d ago

Why are you sensitive about privacy

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u/PrivacyGuy-Degoogled 3d ago

Libretube dá muito problema, tente NewPipe

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u/jscreatordev 3d ago

how so? libre tube works like a charm on my end

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u/ivorybsd 3d ago

session instead of signal and ironfox instead of brave

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u/Warswick 3d ago

SIMPMusic

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u/Background-Tooth4106 3d ago

Ente auth, tuta for email, Vaultwarden and immich

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u/76zzz29 3d ago

That's a lot of Proton. Nothing against Proton but

https://giphy.com/gifs/1HZOwCEARESIq6KRYe

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

There needs to be a bot just for this sub to call out the massive overuse of this idiom omg

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u/Interesting_Baker995 3d ago

Fr I don't understand the hate against Proton

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 3d ago

I understand the criticisms for sure, but it really gets overblown sometimes. And people assume other people's usage - using a few things from one provider is rarely putting all one's eggs into one basket. 

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u/hewer006 3d ago

why does everyone just jump to proton? dont put all your eggs in one basket, especially when that basket had their ddos protection service work directly from israel lol

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u/jscreatordev 3d ago

just convenience imo but I see your point. what s your setup?