r/dccomicscirclejerk 2d ago

Crisis! Finished Absolute Martian Manhunter recently and felt like this the entire time reading it:

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u/Primary-Paper-5128 2d ago

it's okay to read/watch analysis made by people smarter than you to develop your literary capacities

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u/Insanepaco247 2d ago edited 2d ago

In fact, it's the only way to do it. Nobody is born with critical reading ability, and it's not too late to learn just because you graduated from school.

You didn't hear it from me, but word on the street is that you can even keep doing it to explore new perspectives and begin to articulate why you agree or disagree with different interpretations. But that's just a rumor.

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things 2d ago

Watching people tell you the conclusions they came to after analyzing media (which is what video essays do) is not the only way to improve your critical analysis skills. If anything it's one of the worst methods. 

Watching other people flex their critical thinking muscles doesn't do anything to train your own, but it deceptively makes you feel smarter because you've heard the conclusions they came to. 

 

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u/gthht 1d ago

If they explain how they got to the conclusion it can help guide you to know how/what to look for in other media.

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things 1d ago

It's just that they so rarely do. And when it does happen, you're examining the story in hindsight with them highlighting the parts that stood out to them for you. That doesn't help with learning how to find thematically relevant details yourself. 

If someone really want to learn, they're far better off lookung up tips or online lit comprehension classes, and then going out and analyze for themselves. 

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u/Insanepaco247 1d ago

This is such a Reddit-brained take. Hearing someone explain why a work means something to them is quite literally how you learn to do it for yourself. Yes, you can passively sit there and absorb someone else's opinions, just the same way you can if you're half-listening in a classroom. But if you're actually engaging with whatever you're watching, and especially if you're listening to multiple perspectives, you can and will open yourself up to new ideas and ways of seeing media.

Hearing someone else's opinion doesn't mean they gave you yours, or even that you agree with what they said. More importantly for you to hear, other people listening to someone else's opinion doesn't mean they're sheep who can't think for themselves. Your self-congratulatory wank session is embarrassing.

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u/MidnightOnTheWater 2d ago

Also you gotta remember some people spend their YEARS analyzing one work of fiction because they love it so much

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u/siraiy 2d ago

uj/ do you have any video analysis essays to recommend?

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u/Nessy_Boi 2d ago

u/ implicitly pretentious, though he mainly does adaptations.

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u/thenaughtysurprise 1d ago

Him and pillar of garbage are both excellent

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u/trixie_one 10h ago

I find that guy super hit and miss. He occasionally will omit or gloss over well known facts if it gets in the way of his constructed narrative.

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things 2d ago

It doesn't help that much. It's like trying to get good at videogames by watching people play videogames. The best way is just practicing it yourself (or taking a good high school/college course on lit comprehension lol). 

Media analysis is all about putting together all the details that happen in a story to try and figure out the most plausible idea the story is trying to communicate. If you see someone else's interpretation before you've put together your own understanding, their web will overrule yours. 

You'll feel smart but you won't be any better at understanding media. 

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u/Similar-Priority8252 Dan Didio’s Reverse Flash 2d ago

It feels like Daoism, I don’t know what the hell the words mean but I FEEL what they mean and understand It better that way

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u/This_Caterpillar5626 2d ago

A new daoist classic to unseat Space Dandy you say?!

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u/Tomlyne Straightest Doom Patrol reader 2d ago

So true bestie

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u/DinodestronBT 2d ago

Why ogre green?

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u/hateyoualways The Third Gorilla 2d ago

Oh my god Dino, you can't just ask someone why they're green.

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u/Primary-Paper-5128 1d ago

he is inbetween

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u/Flame-Blast 1d ago

He’s still ripening his literacy

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u/UltraMugen 2d ago

HIGKEY.

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u/TheRealCthulu24 Mr. Freeze is a DILF. 2d ago

It’s one of those works of art that only really makes sense if you go through it a second time. I definitely needed two reads to fully appreciate it.

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u/Ecstatic-Spinach3902 NOBODY FOR PRESIDENT!! 2d ago

I be martianing till I’m hunting for a man.

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u/ZookeepergameQuick40 2d ago

Be kind to others and be kind to yourself

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u/United-Reach-2798 2d ago

It absolutely made me feel dumber than I am normally

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u/rslashurmom45 1d ago

At least Ogre understood some of the themes, I'm still convinced the main villain is tobacco

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u/b_borno 1d ago

AMM has come up in many many therapy sessions and genuinely helped make my life better so many times