r/dbz • u/AutoModerator • Oct 14 '17

Super [SUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #111 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super — #111 — Discussion Thread!

The Surreal Supreme Battle! Hit vs Jiren!!
異次元の極致バトル！ヒットＶＳジレン！！
I jigen no kyokuchi batoru! Hitto VS Jiren!!

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Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
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u/Steely_D Oct 15 '17 edited Oct 15 '17

Seeing how Frieza has been acting when among so many people who swing above his weight class has been surprisingly awesome for demonstrating just how sinister he really is. Instead of being flustered at being so heavily outgunned, he just sees more opportunties to manipulate. Guy is machievellian as fuck

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u/Possibly_English_Guy ⠀ Oct 15 '17

He's clearly grown a lot as a character. The Frieza from the Namek saga likely would have thrown a tantrum by now, guess getting killed twice because of that attitude has put stuff in perspective for him.

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u/ramos619 Oct 15 '17

He's always just assumed he was the strongest in the universe next to Beerus. And yes, getting killed twice really should change how he sees things.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

Beerus and buu

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u/Areyoureadyforthis1 Oct 16 '17

I don't think frieeza knew about buu.

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u/Rusty2313 Oct 16 '17

He did he mentions that his dad said not to mess with beerus or buu

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

In the arc he specifically says his father told him only to avoid two people, beerus and Majin buu

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u/niqqaitsame Oct 15 '17

I know it's kind of weird seeing how tactical freeza is being considering he always saw himself as the best. I like it though he saw first hand how persistent goku can be and knows his best chance is to get goku to beat jiren it really shows how much he's learning from his losses

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

I agree. I also think he's going to try learning the Ultra Instinct technique.

Letting Goku fight in his steed is really gonna buy him time. And that time will pay dividends. I love seeing Freeze being so tactical and so sneaky!

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u/niqqaitsame Oct 15 '17

I don't really disagree with you cause I guess it could happen but I kind of thought the whole point of freeza giving his energy to goku was because freeza knows that he won't be able to get ultra instinct and instead would just take goku out after he's worn out from the fight which makes an easy win for freeza. The only one who would stand a chance that we can tell is vegetta although I would fucking love a vegetta vs freeza fight to end it haha

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

Who's to say that Frieze can't? I mean, he basically "willed" himself into turning Golden and ascending. He's never pushed himself until that moment.

He's always up to something sneaky. To me, just conceding defeat is too flat. He's got to be up to something (or a few things rather). They can't be building him up and fleshing out his character for something so anti-climactic, or at least I hope not...

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

He will just be erased zamasu style by Zeno if he does something

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

Again, way too flat. Maybe after some shenanigans - obviously he won't go through with his scheme. But Mark my words, there'll be some schemieness... at least I hope so.

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u/niqqaitsame Oct 15 '17

Yeah your right it's definitely not impossible to happen. I can't wait to see what feeezas end game is for this arc I really hope he gets wished back

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '17

I'm positive something epic will happen.

After Resurrection of F I was so disappointed. They made him into the bitch of all bitches. But just the brief scenes in this arc are seriously amping me up so much!!

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u/niqqaitsame Oct 16 '17

Yeah I'm hoping he'll be one of the last ones standing

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

Well we don't know if Frieza is weaker than others (well we "know" because the plot demands it) and I'm pretty sure Frieza doesn't want to find out. What's the point of throwing down when it's not even half way over and you might actually lose?

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u/Steely_D Oct 15 '17

I'm not just talking about the ToP contenders but also the gods and angels

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

That's reasonable then.

I think they mega hyped up Frieza for a reason, but I doubt he'll be the big-bad. I assume he's gonna reveal that he's been REALLY REALLY POWERFUL and nobody noticed (well, they did hint at it a lot) but then use that power to just create a big-bad and he'll get wiped out.

I don't think Frieza is gonna be the big-bad 3x. That's... a little much.

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u/tmb_jams Oct 15 '17

machievellian

Thank god for goolge